rape as a pre-existing condition
Oct. 21st, 2009 09:12 pmDo I need to say this is about to be triggery as hell?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/insurance-companies-rape-_n_328708.html
Scenario 1: Woman is raped. Almost two decades go by. She is raped again. When she tries to get coverage for health services related to the rape, her claims are denied because her first rape made her second rape a pre-existing condition.
Scenario 2: Woman is raped. Woman takes HIV drugs as a precautionary measure. Woman is now uninsurable in most cases. If she is able to get or maintain insurance she most likely would not be covered should she contract AIDS or any STD in the future.
Just so we're clear, these scenarios (which have really happened to non-hypothetical, non-fictitious women) are more than barbaric. They both brand women as responsible for their rapes and therefore not entitled to care related to their sexual and emotional selves -- that's only for insurance-defined "good girls" apparently.
Pissed off yet? Well, wait, because there's more, because a host of other scenarios like this are out there (check out the comments to this post, which include "domestic violence as a pre-existing condition" and a woman who was inseminated so she could have kids with her female partner being denied health insurance on the grounds of the infertility she didn't have), and if they haven't happened yet, they probably will soon.
Here's the deal about health insurance and being female: Being female is effectively considered a disease by insurers, despite the fact that women have much longer life expectancies than men. Women are also dealt with as children who are incapable of making informed decisions about their own bodies; whether it's birth control, abortion or pregnancy-related services, insurers will tell you over and over again that they know better than you or your doctor.
Choosing to have an abortion? May not be covered if it's not "medically necessary" and what's "medically necessary" isn't decided by you or your doctor, but by your insurance company. If mental health is a factor, forget about it (I've seen this one in action repeatedly). My abortion was part of the RU486 trial, and I still had to pay $400 for it (about ten years ago); it was not covered by insurance.
Want birth control? It'll probably cost you more than Viagra or similar medications on many insurance plans. A man has a right to fuck, but a woman doesn't have the same right to not get pregnant, apparently. (Once again, see comments -- this may or may not now actually be less fucked than I remember it being; it's been a long time since I was on oral birth control and I know regulations on insurance companies regarding this has changed since that time -- people's experiences with this seem to vary, but there's still definitely a problem on at least some plans or in some regions).
Have you decided to be child-free? Well, that's nice, but chances are there's no way for you to decline coverage for pregnancy related services (even if you've had your tubes tied), because as a woman, you apparently don't really know what you want and are likely to change your mind (and hey, you might get raped!). And if you want a medical procedure to ensure your child-free status? As one commenter notes, good luck. Odds are your insurance plan will cover a vasectomy, but as a woman? Sorry, no procedures for you! Why? Well, you could change your mind.
Having a baby? Well, if you've had a c-section before, your insurance company is going to tell you, you have to have one again, even if you and your doctor are comfortable with you trying for a VBAC. That is if they don't, as noted in the comments, just quit insuring you altogether.
Need a mammogram before age 40 because of a family history of breast cancer? Well, most insurers will make you wait even if breast cancer killed one of your relatives at age 39. Maybe, if you're really lucky, you'll figure out how to get seen at a free-screening clinic in a low-income neighborhood -- if it exists, if you're eligible, and if doing that won't cause anything breast health related to be termed a pre-existing condition and be not covered by your insurance forever more. That's right, if you have a family history of breast cancer, you may not be able to afford to have the screenings that could save your life -- even if you are insured!
The bias in all this is exhausting, but so is the lip-service paid to women's equality by executives and politicians who think this is all just fine. Fuck you. Come out and say it. We're children and chattel to you. And if we're very good and beg hard enough and don't get raped, maybe, just maybe you'll insure us and then we can be worth some cash too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/insurance-companies-rape-_n_328708.html
Scenario 1: Woman is raped. Almost two decades go by. She is raped again. When she tries to get coverage for health services related to the rape, her claims are denied because her first rape made her second rape a pre-existing condition.
Scenario 2: Woman is raped. Woman takes HIV drugs as a precautionary measure. Woman is now uninsurable in most cases. If she is able to get or maintain insurance she most likely would not be covered should she contract AIDS or any STD in the future.
Just so we're clear, these scenarios (which have really happened to non-hypothetical, non-fictitious women) are more than barbaric. They both brand women as responsible for their rapes and therefore not entitled to care related to their sexual and emotional selves -- that's only for insurance-defined "good girls" apparently.
Pissed off yet? Well, wait, because there's more, because a host of other scenarios like this are out there (check out the comments to this post, which include "domestic violence as a pre-existing condition" and a woman who was inseminated so she could have kids with her female partner being denied health insurance on the grounds of the infertility she didn't have), and if they haven't happened yet, they probably will soon.
Here's the deal about health insurance and being female: Being female is effectively considered a disease by insurers, despite the fact that women have much longer life expectancies than men. Women are also dealt with as children who are incapable of making informed decisions about their own bodies; whether it's birth control, abortion or pregnancy-related services, insurers will tell you over and over again that they know better than you or your doctor.
Choosing to have an abortion? May not be covered if it's not "medically necessary" and what's "medically necessary" isn't decided by you or your doctor, but by your insurance company. If mental health is a factor, forget about it (I've seen this one in action repeatedly). My abortion was part of the RU486 trial, and I still had to pay $400 for it (about ten years ago); it was not covered by insurance.
Want birth control? It'll probably cost you more than Viagra or similar medications on many insurance plans. A man has a right to fuck, but a woman doesn't have the same right to not get pregnant, apparently. (Once again, see comments -- this may or may not now actually be less fucked than I remember it being; it's been a long time since I was on oral birth control and I know regulations on insurance companies regarding this has changed since that time -- people's experiences with this seem to vary, but there's still definitely a problem on at least some plans or in some regions).
Have you decided to be child-free? Well, that's nice, but chances are there's no way for you to decline coverage for pregnancy related services (even if you've had your tubes tied), because as a woman, you apparently don't really know what you want and are likely to change your mind (and hey, you might get raped!). And if you want a medical procedure to ensure your child-free status? As one commenter notes, good luck. Odds are your insurance plan will cover a vasectomy, but as a woman? Sorry, no procedures for you! Why? Well, you could change your mind.
Having a baby? Well, if you've had a c-section before, your insurance company is going to tell you, you have to have one again, even if you and your doctor are comfortable with you trying for a VBAC. That is if they don't, as noted in the comments, just quit insuring you altogether.
Need a mammogram before age 40 because of a family history of breast cancer? Well, most insurers will make you wait even if breast cancer killed one of your relatives at age 39. Maybe, if you're really lucky, you'll figure out how to get seen at a free-screening clinic in a low-income neighborhood -- if it exists, if you're eligible, and if doing that won't cause anything breast health related to be termed a pre-existing condition and be not covered by your insurance forever more. That's right, if you have a family history of breast cancer, you may not be able to afford to have the screenings that could save your life -- even if you are insured!
The bias in all this is exhausting, but so is the lip-service paid to women's equality by executives and politicians who think this is all just fine. Fuck you. Come out and say it. We're children and chattel to you. And if we're very good and beg hard enough and don't get raped, maybe, just maybe you'll insure us and then we can be worth some cash too.
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Date: 2009-10-22 05:23 am (UTC)I recently upgraded my public health care insurances and they kept asking me whether I was going to have children in the future! Why? Because under this coverage they provide eggs if I happen to be infertile or something - yeah, fertility treatments in covered and provided by our public HMO's.
Chemical birth control... you guessed it, still have to pay full price with the script.
I just read that the ministry of health in my country was going to add Viagra to the Medicine Basket (a bunch of medicines that are sold at a reduced price... does not include various cancer treatments, of course), which I find symptomatic as hell when it comes to what health actually is.
But America is batshit when it comes to health, care and insurance. WTF!!!!
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Date: 2009-10-22 09:32 pm (UTC)/me looks around nervously to make sure no Republicans overhear
...SOCIALISTS!
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Date: 2009-10-22 06:52 am (UTC)Evernoted (http://www.evernote.com/pub/botia/botiasnotebook) and muchly applauded.
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Date: 2009-10-22 01:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 04:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 07:31 am (UTC)Rape as a pre-existing condition. That has to be one of the most inhumane and fucked up things I have encountered.
Bill Of Rights - HELLO? ANYBODY HOME??
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Date: 2009-10-22 03:22 pm (UTC)There may be many things to recommend the US about. Its health care provisions? Not one of them.
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Date: 2009-10-22 03:24 pm (UTC)Like really? This actually seems inhumane to normal people? It doesn't have to be like this? We can't get it. There's a lot of fatalism here.
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Date: 2009-10-24 06:40 am (UTC)Thank God for the opportunities and the landscape and all the nice people.
I snagged your icon by the way. Tis glorious.
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Date: 2009-10-22 09:09 am (UTC)This system you guys have, isn't there a law to stop this from happening? I should add, btw, that where I live, it's illegal not to have health insurance.
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Date: 2009-10-22 12:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-10-22 10:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 12:38 pm (UTC)Not despite. Because. The dead don't cost them money.
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Date: 2009-10-22 03:20 pm (UTC)Forgive me if I'm wrong; I know very little about health insurance, and I recognise there'd be a lot of variation in individual cases, but that pinged my logicometer.
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Date: 2009-10-22 03:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 03:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 04:34 pm (UTC)Being female, full stop, seems to be some icky pre-existing condition that the insurers would rather not deal with.
Despite having had the same insurance provider for the past five years or so - but not always the same plan - whenever I've gone to the MDs for treatment about *anything* I will cheerfully fudge onset dates of symptoms if I think I'm going to get hit with 'Oopsie, that predates your joining this plan, so we're disqualifying it and you'. I don't like being dishonest, but I dislike being uninsured even more so...
ETA: and now that I've accepted a scrip for Prozac, I suspect that any new-to-me plan in the future will try to turn me down as I've heard tell that depression is now treated like a pre-existing condition and cited as a reason to deny coverage. SIGH.
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Date: 2009-10-22 05:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-10-22 06:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-22 07:53 pm (UTC)It's true, they will. I've a friend in Virginia who just got denied coverage for being on anti-depressants.
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Date: 2009-10-22 11:31 pm (UTC)A-fucking-men. I had an ectopic pregnancy that required termination, and it still wasn't covered...go figure. Guess they wanted me to hemerege and bleed out rather than kill a getus which wouldn't have survived outside the euderus in the first place.
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Date: 2009-10-23 05:22 pm (UTC)Still, some of the things in this post and described in comments still shock me. I guess some part of me believed adjusters/claims reps for health insurance companies would be different, or better.
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Date: 2009-10-24 03:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-10-24 05:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-23 11:52 am (UTC)You say that being female is considered a disease despite the fact that women live longer. To an insurance company, I believe that just means that women are infected with a more expensive version of the "Life" virus, that needs to be treated for an extra five years on average. If you would just die early like men do, you wouldn't be so expensive.
(Disclaimer to everyone: This is a tongue-in-cheek comment, pointing out a flaw in the insurance companies' reasoning. Please don't flame me for views I do not hold.)