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Well, those were both a lot better.


White Collar

!. Diana is AWESOME and does not need rescuing.
2. Peter is a heavy-handed dumbass when playing bad cop.
3. I liked the idea of a politically-related plot, but I felt it was both oddly complex and oddly simple in a way that didn't quite work.
4. 10K sex-work exchanges, aside from ludicrous, would usually be charge, not cash.
5. I still hate these central mystery things -- the music box, the jigsaw man, I don't care. We need it to raise the stakes and have the push-pull of Peter and Neal's relationship be interesting, but beyond its use, I still find it annoying as hell.
6. Deviled ham can now be added to the list of tragically cock-blocking foods. Along with beans.



Covert Affairs

1. Well, it's better.
2. Slightly less agressively heterosexual. But now instead of romance it's the KIDS AND FAMILY episode.
3. Hey, Anglicans celebrate Lent too.
4. I am so in this show just for Auggie, who I adore more with every millisecond. He is hot and funny and charming, and the fight-training stuff was not stupid and I feel like the camera really lingered on reaction shots from him a few times that are like a bottomless pit of fanfic character development potential. Maybe now I can figure out this story.
5. I almost care about the married couple of CIA execs this time. Almost. But why are they in this show? That's some other show.
6. I don't have a 6. I'll just say AUGGIE again. Guh.

Date: 2010-07-21 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
I am so, so happy that they brought Diana back on White Collar. That actress and character are so much more believable than...see, I can't even remember the other's name.

I really like Auggie, and I agree with you that the Peter Gallagher/blonde actress whose name I don't know characters seem to be in their own show...it's almost like Mad Men; Betty/Don's home life is completely separate from Sterling Cooper, and Betty particularly seems to be in her own show. She hardly ever interacts with the other agency characters. Except the difference is that Betty is a part of the protagonist's double life, whereas this couple is just sort of...there.

Date: 2010-07-21 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lefaym.livejournal.com
OMG, DIANA! ♥ She is absolutely my favourite character now. I know I keep saying it, but she SO NEEDS HER OWN SPINOFF.

I was very pleased with the devilled ham and crossword references, because I used both of them in a recent fic. :) But now I'm imagining beans with devilled ham, and that is just disturbing!

Date: 2010-07-21 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Diana is my new Superhero!
She's so freakin' amazing! I concur there needs to be a spin-off with her as the main. Also, I'm dying to finally meet Christie! We know you have a girlfriend, there needs to be a double date with them and the Burke-Caffrey household :)

Also, her tattoo is hawt and those dresses. Smoking.

Edited, 'cause I felt like it.

Date: 2010-07-21 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenowhere.livejournal.com
I only get to see these shows when I'm at work on Tuesdays and end up having to stay up all damned night.

But...

1. I so *heart* Auggie. So very much.

2. I must confess, I honestly prefer the central mystery over-arching plotbunnies. ...I have no idea why. The only time I don't like 'em is when I miss many episodes due to aforementioned work things. Because I miss out on big chunks.

3. I'd care more about blondie and whateverdude CIA couple if, I don't know, she wasn't sort of blandly insecure and covering it up with bitchiness and he wasn't a parody of a strong, silent, overprotective douche-type.

Or maybe I wouldn't. Hm.

4. Iiiiiii don't know if I care about Diana, but I did appreciate the fact that she didn't need to be rescued.

5. You ever watch Leverage?

Okay, time to run.

Date: 2010-07-21 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com
White Collar
Diana is freaking amazing. I'm beyond hopeful about this season now, especially now that we know that she's not some secret bad guy who's playing Peter and Neal both.

Heavy handed or not, I'm dead certain they penned that line about "I can tell you're dirty just looking at you" for pure fan service.

I agree about how strange this week's case felt. On the other hand, Mozzie as a political creature falling for Neal's stadium plot was really amusing.

And deviled ham is just as funny this season as last season. Also, both deviled ham episodes feature a hotel and activities that make Peter look like he's straying when he's not. Coincidence? Secret writing team euphemism?

Covert Affairs
It was better, but man. I could never work for this version of the CIA. I've got no patience for the kind of shit they're all pulling on one another.

Married CIA execs are...some kind of long plot point, but I haven't worked out what. They're both in the know about the real reason Annie's in that department, but beyond that, they seem to exist mostly as a simmering pot of WTF conflict.

But yeah. Auggie. We're here for the Auggie.

Date: 2010-07-21 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy-joy.livejournal.com
I ended up staying up WAY too late just to watch that fight training scene again for the pure joy that is Auggie.

Oddly/interestingly he gets second billing and Peter Gallagher ends up under "also starring" ...

and White Collar just gets better and better. Loved Peter's LOOK when Neal said he didn't graduate H.S.

and let's talk about "You'll sit there and like it." as fanservice :)

Tuesday nights are busy!!!

Date: 2010-07-21 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
I don't watch White Collar--it didn't really appeal the first couple of episodes--but I may have a second look at Covert Affairs, if for no other reason that Auggie, who is ♥.

I think I'd like to see the married CIA couple on another show, although I wish they'd either forgone or switched up the dynamic on that "is my spouse cheating" story in the pilot--it made my skin crawl.

Date: 2010-07-21 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com
I cannot believe how badass Diana is turning out to be. Taking the surprise undercover-as-a-hooker — and Peter's sekrit mistress, LOL — completely in stride! Bonding with Neal — without UST! "I will shoot you in the shoulder"! SO AWESOME.

Re: the A plot, I missed the first three or four minutes and wondered if I'd missed some key scene. Apparently not. (Though if the network allows, I may rewatch the ep online during lunch just to make sure.)

I was boggling at the $10K in cash thing, but it set up another installment of the Peter 'n' Mozz Show ("I need a shoelace, a magnet, and an issue of Sports Illustrated"), so I'm willing to handwave how ridiculous that was.

ETA: Also, Peter's tragic mustache. BRB, dying of laughter.
Edited Date: 2010-07-21 02:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-21 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neifile7.livejournal.com
Squee city for WC last night, contrivances notwithstanding. I love (and have teal deered at length onnit) what they did with Diana in this ep, and how successfully, all things considered, the writers subverted the undercover-prostie tropes. We actually got critical character development out of it all.

Date: 2010-07-21 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popfiend.livejournal.com
I'm still rocking on both these shows and it's obvious I like CA better than you do.

I like the idea of an overachiever finding their way in this very weird world and like all the USA shows this really is a character piece, pretty much about Annie and Augie.

And yes, I love Augie too.

I told Lisa I want one for the basement.

She was wondering about maintenance issues in that case.

Date: 2010-07-21 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
4. 10K sex-work exchanges, aside from ludicrous, would usually be charge, not cash.

Really? I'd thing charging such a thing would be leave far too much of a trail. What advantage is gained by charging - is it just the convenience of not carrying around huge wads of cash?

Wrt Leverage, it's fun, but also fluffier and a bit less good than White Collar - the characters are much fun, but the plots don't hold up at all.

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