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@LambdaLegal RT @freedomtomarry: BREAKING: Judge Walker lifts stay, and same-sex couples now have the freedom to marry in CA #Prop8 – Please RT! #lgbt

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Stay is in effect until August 18, at 5pm. At which point marriages will resume, although the 9th Circuit could step in and issue their own stay and various weird appeals by groups who may or may not have standing may be in play.

Situation: good, but chaotic.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cozzene.livejournal.com
Yes, press has it now. I wish I liked planes more; maybe there should be a road trip.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-12 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Awesome!

Date: 2010-08-12 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikiera.livejournal.com
I heard it here first. :)

Date: 2010-08-12 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkerdave.livejournal.com
Halle-freaking-lujah!

Date: 2010-08-12 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nex0s.livejournal.com
WOO HOO!!!!

N.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:52 pm (UTC)
marcmagus: Me playing cribbage in regency attire (Default)
From: [personal profile] marcmagus
Haven't finished reading the stay order yet . . . but this means no marriages for a week, giving the appellate court a week to decide to hear an appeal and issue their own stay until they do so?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambyr.livejournal.com
It is interesting that the Post is currently headlining this as "Judge keeps gay marriages in California on hold."

Date: 2010-08-12 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Possibly. It may also be because most courthouses are not fucking prepared to deal with the influx of people.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
NY Post? Washington Post?

Which Post?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teleens-journal.livejournal.com
Interesting...

Date: 2010-08-12 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
This makes me happy. Has it really been 6 years since Gavin Newsom stepped up and flung open the courthouse doors?

Image

Date: 2010-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)
kaffy_r: The TARDIS says hello (Kiki 2)
From: [personal profile] kaffy_r
August 18th can't come soon enough.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)
ext_3545: Jon Walker, being adorable! (Default)
From: [identity profile] dsudis.livejournal.com
I'm really fascinated by the question Judge Walker raised on pp.3-6 about whether they'll have standing to pursue an appeal without getting the Governor or AG to go along.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
This is the reason. The Clerks are now scrambling to ensure that they have sufficient forms and staffing, because when the stay lifts, they're going to get SMOKED.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:56 pm (UTC)
kaffy_r: The TARDIS says hello (Brit Baby Bugger)
From: [personal profile] kaffy_r
Chicago Trib also reports that Walker has agreed to hold the stay until 18th Aug., to give Prop 8 supporters a chance to appeal.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambyr.livejournal.com
Washington (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/12/AR2010081201011.html?hpid=topnews), sorry.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:57 pm (UTC)
marcmagus: Me playing cribbage in regency attire (Default)
From: [personal profile] marcmagus
Further reading: "to permit the court of appeals to consider the issue in an orderly manner"

So it really is to give them a chance to put in their own stay without a weird gap if they're going to do so. Which sucks, but is probably reasonable from a judicial standpoint.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Prop 8 supports who likely don't have standing.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:01 pm (UTC)
kaffy_r: Japanese building w/flowers on blue ground (Blue Nippon)
From: [personal profile] kaffy_r
Yup. I can hardly wait until the 18th. Too long, too long.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
Awesome news so far, especially given that since California won't appeal, & thus appeals may be impossible.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:03 pm (UTC)
jeliza: custom avatar by hexdraws (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeliza
That's the AP wire headline, hence it's appearance in many places. The SF Chronicle had the better constructed headline Judge lifts stay, but same-sex marriages still on hold which at least makes you read the article to decipher the details.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 5251962.livejournal.com
I was watching the live feed outside of the city hall and oh man, I hadn't seen any headlines or tweets or anything like that, yet- but suddenly, everyone was jumping around, cheering, laughing and crying and it was a seriously powerful thing to see.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:06 pm (UTC)
kshandra: close-up of a statue of Abraham Lincoln, holding a picket sign reading "We All Deserve The Freedom to Marry" (LincolnMarry)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
My god, that's a beautiful picture.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris.livejournal.com
Just woke up and looked at my friends list, so I read it here first!

I really hope there isn't another stay. I have a friend in CA whose wife *just* got diagnosed with MS and she's been scrambling to figure out if she can get her better insurance to cover her wife via domestic partner.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com
Oh my god, my stomach just did a flip-flop. I did NOT see this coming.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:17 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
That document is a work of art. I can just hear him saying that. Words are barely sufficient to register my adoration of him. He refrained from pitching Blankenhorn out of the courtroom on his ear, which was more than fair of him.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Congratulations America! You're slowly joining your neighbours north and south of your borders :)

Date: 2010-08-12 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
Isn't it, though? I have that as a 16x20 poster, framed in gold, hanging on my office wall. Derek Powazek (http://www.powazek.com/2004/02/000365.html) sold them through CafePress for a while to raise money for an organization called Don'tAmend.

Newsom's edict all came down in the week leading up to my 13th wedding anniversary. And I thought it was fitting to celebrate the weddings of thousands of couples who had previously been denied.

Now we get to celebrate again. And for longer, this time, I think. Maybe even forever now, as is right and proper.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Nuptial Stampede!!! NUPTIAL STAMPEDE!!!!

Date: 2010-08-12 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com
"Proponents replied that they have an interest in defending Proposition 8 but failed to articulate even one specific harm they may suffer as a consequence of the injunction."

I continue to be madly in love with this judge.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
That's the only real Post, anyway. Well, to us DC types.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatwordgrrl.livejournal.com
Both Brown (as State's AG) and Der Governator have stated they will not support an appeal.

Of course, this makes me want to see Meg Whitman stick her foot in her mouth by supporting the stay...

Because this Californian is just evil lke that. :>

Date: 2010-08-12 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
Both Brown (as State's AG) and Der Governator have stated they will not support an appeal.

At this point an appeal may be possible, but it may not. From what I've read, judicial opinion inclines against appeals by interested parties (aka bigotted scum), but isn't absolutely certain. We shall see.

Date: 2010-08-12 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatwordgrrl.livejournal.com
All true, but man I'd still love to see Whitman step in it over this...

Date: 2010-08-12 09:31 pm (UTC)
ext_107588: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ophymirage.livejournal.com
even more pertinent (emphasis mine):
To establish that they have standing to appeal the court’s decision under Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution, proponents must show that they have “suffered an injury in fact, which is fairly traceable to the challenged action and is likely to be redressed by the relief requested.” Didrickson v United States Dept of Interior, 982 F2d 1332, 1338 (9th Cir 1992). Standing requires a showing of a concrete and particularized injury that is actual or imminent.

They can't even APPEAL without proving calculable harm. Let me just say that again, because it makes me so goddamn happy. They can't even APPEAL without proving calculable harm.

Vaughn Walker, you have just shot over Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert to the top of my HAWT Intellectuals list...

Date: 2010-08-12 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com
That's Walker's POV, yes. I don't know enough about the legal details of standing to know whether the Ninth Circuit will agree with him. And honestly, I'm kind of terrified of the shitstorm that would be called down upon the nation if the appeal is denied based on standing. Shit. Storm.

Date: 2010-08-12 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
*happy dance* all being well and I hope

Date: 2010-08-13 05:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-13 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Yes, but it's a dry evil.

Date: 2010-08-13 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Oh my, I imagine yes. I remember when the Canadian Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution did in fact mean what it damn well said. Exaltation and tears, and things I can't describe or define.
Then it was all over but the grinding Provincial governments underfoot.

Prop 8

Date: 2010-08-16 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obiewoncanobie.livejournal.com
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