rm ([personal profile] rm) wrote2008-04-04 12:13 pm

Torchwood preview?

Apparently the trailer for the Season 2 finale for Torchwood on the BBC UK site can't be viewed from outside the UK. Apparently it also involves two minutes of Captain Jack in bondage.

Someone tell me where the fuck this thing is on You Tube, because you know someone put it up there. This poor American wants to see.

Thanks.

Oh yeah, also, since I'm about done with the Season 1 DVDs, what of the new Who do I need to Netflix for the Jack/Torchwood arc there?

More thanks.

New Doctor Who

[identity profile] poodah.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
All of it. Jack shows up in the middle of season 1 and sticks around for a while and then continues to pop up in various forms (which will make more sense if you watch the show). The first few episodes of Torchwood are heavily informed by Doctor Who.

[identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Here you go. (Courtesy of the wonderful [livejournal.com profile] pennypaperbrain, who understands a person's need for these things.)

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
holy crap.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, now that I can speak again, thank you. Also, wow, John just needs to boil a bunny and get the fuck over it.

[identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, to both reactions.

I haven't been following Torchwood at all, so my knowledge is limited to (a) the vague idea, now confirmed, that James Marsters was going to be on the show at some point; and (b) this preview of the next episode, over which parts of my flist lit up like a signal flare last night.

From said flist, I now gather that the writing isn't exactly the allure of this series. But I think it's now clear what is. Also, I must say that Marsters has my increasing respect. It's not easy to deliver lines like that. It makes me think of Harrison Ford's classic comment to George Lucas: George, you can write it, but that doesn't mean anyone can *say* it.

Edited for crappy proofreading. Sorry.
Edited 2008-04-04 17:02 (UTC)

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I had that reaction to the acting too. Apparently (I've not seen season 2 yet -- he's in the first episode of it too) Marsters has been going to some really weird interpretations of the script and pulling some pretty interesting emotion out of what are basically campy, shitty lines and an, at times, incoherent plot.

[identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
campy, shitty lines and an, at times, incoherent plot.

And if I could just add? Whoever is responsible for that peculiarly awful take on a hussar's jacket needs to be beaten with large sticks. Oh, all right. Metaphorically speaking, I suppose.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously.

Also, it makes Marsters look even shorter than he already is. Which would be sort of cute in the whole Jack/John melodrama if John weren't so busy being a psychotic time traveling Napoleon.

[identity profile] tommx.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I have a mental picture of him wearing only a Napoleon hat. I see a fanfic in this.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I feel damaged. And it's not even MPreg.

[identity profile] tommx.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Imagine how I feel! I don't even write fanfic.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You came up with it!

[identity profile] tommx.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it's a byproduct of falling asleep last night watching The Man Who Fell To Earth. I suspect my homoerotosurreal brain areas have been re-activated.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
/tone on

Thank you.

/tone off

oi.

also, heh.

But oi.

[identity profile] tommx.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
He was very good in the first episode of season 2 and he did definitely do some good things with the script he was given. He's a very good actor, and one I would love to see more of in non-genre stuff. I heard once that he wanted to produce a film of a certain Shakespearian play chronicling the rise and fall of a certain King of Scotland but to my knowledge it has not come to pass.

Your line about John boiling a bunny made me almost spray coffee on my monitor.
laurel: Picture of Laurel Krahn wearing navy & red buffalo plaid Twins baseball cap (tv picks)

[personal profile] laurel 2008-04-05 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Re non-genre stuff:

Marsters has a recurring role in this season of Without A Trace as a police detective.

And he makes a brief appearance as Ted Bundy in the miniseries The Capture of the Green River Killer which is currently airing on Lifetime Movie Network.

He guest starred in an episode of the first season of Saving Grace. So he's been pretty busy in the last year or two (and he's also been doing the genre stuff like Torchwood and Smallville).

[identity profile] alterjess.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack first shows up in the S1 2-parter The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances and remains on the TARDIS through the rest of that season.

Torchwood is introduced in S2 & features pretty prominently through the whole season, but sans Jack.

Jack then reappears in Utopia in S3 and is in the final 3 eps of that season. S3 is also worth watching because Martha Jones shows up on Torchwood at some point in S2. (I'm SO far behind that the dust on my DVDs are gathering dust.)

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Perfect, that's exactly what I needed. I mean, I'll probably just rent all of it, but I wanted to know what my expectations should be.

[identity profile] fleur.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, just what alterjess said. He is sporadically in all three seasons. There is a rather huge Dr Who reveal involving him at the end of S3 which is I believe somewhat inconsequential to TW. I'm not sure at what point Freema Agyeman arrives on TW?

Interesting as I *just* started watching TW last night!!! I've only made it 3 eps in so far.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Stick with it, as it's very rocky (brace yourself for episode 4, which is the infamously bad Cyberwoman episode), but when it's good is rather astounding.

[identity profile] fleur.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo .. that's the next one up, Cyberwoman. Hm. I really sortof liked the Cybermen eps of Dr Who, so I'll keep an open mind.

One of my favorite Dr Who eps is in S2, when Queen Victoria herself "starts" Torchwood!

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're a fan of old Who, I think this one is easier to take. The idea isn't bad, it just has a lot of egregious production values and people do things that make you go WTF and will make you go WTF even more in later episodes (a problem that apparently gets resolved in TW2 when we find out what the fuck people's motivations were for a lot of season 1 shit).

[identity profile] fleur.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yike .. I do have a low tolerance for poor production values, admittedly.