D*C: TW, panel 1

[rm]

Quick summary: http://kalichan.livejournal.com/147785.html

Off the top of my head:

- Usual stuff about how Gwen and Jack love each other but Gwen really needs someone like Rhys and Jack respects that followed by stuff about how Jack and Ianto's relationship is mostly physical -- although this was paired with earlier remarks about how into Jack, Ianto is so it seemed like a tonal quality issue as opposed to a "is it just sex?" issue.

- Someone asked what Ianto would do if Jack broke his heart. GDL said that it might be teh last straw considering "what happened with his last girlfriend."

- When asked about why people didn't film stuff in Cardiff until recently, GDL reminds us ther was nothing in Cardiff until recently.

- Adam kept coming up. He loves dark!Ianto and feels that Adam didn't just make that stuff up but that everyone has that sort of darkness in him and Adam was just playing on that.

- Hilarious story came up from the guy who was Tommy in To the Last Man -- that episode and Adam were shot at the same time. Which means Tosh's two bedroom scenes with men were done back to back, and there was much hi-fiving and sleezy jokes about it at the time.

- In the middle of telling some story or other GDL made this awful face and then explained that his ass had twinged. Hilarity ensued. He tried to explain but it all started sounding more and more obscene as he searched desperately for the word "sciatica" -- eventually all of that became clear and he said, "All right, none of you run to the Internet and post Gareth is totally Barrowman's bitch."

- On and on about how "Into the lift, eye candy" is his favorite line in TW ever -- he does a very good imitation of Marsters on that, and it's a little eerie.

- He was ridiculously gracious in the face of a lot of stuff that was either tacky and horrible (a rant on bad fan behavior later) or very moving and sort of overwhelming for the size of the panel.

- He looked great. I don't want to hear anything about pies. He looked really buff and not skinny and not like a starving actor kid and it was good.

- Apparently Countrycide was even creepy to film than to watch and Naoko Mori and GDL wound up acidentally headbutting each other at one point.

- Dude fro TtLM talked about working with Simm when he was 12 or 13 and about what a fucking maniac the guy was and how it was totally awesome. The audience was sort of desperately silent in a way that seemed to agree.

Much more later including my complete tirade about a very small subset of fan behavior at this one that I thought was ENTIRELY egregious.

Comments

[electro-club.livejournal.com]

How I hate this Gwack part that keeps coming up all the time. Apparently the only one who disagrees is Eve. I've heard she saying once that the thing with Jack is totally physical - something about him being american - and the one she [Gwen] really loves and wants to be with for the rest of her life is Rhys. I really, really, really hate Gwack. Because Gwen and Jack suck together. There is no empathy, there is no chemestry, there is nothing but a strong despise for Gwen and her bad manners - for cheating on Rhys, for hitting on Jack, and for giving a shit about the fact that someone who is supposed to be her friend is involved with the guy. Something Borrowed is by far the worst episode ever for me. That was made for Gwen to be hated. Srsly. I like Rhys, and she's a s.o.b. And so is Jack. God, I hate them! *Dies.*

And my personal problem with Gwen comes way before Jack and Ianto were even hinted. Since first ep. I despised her whatever with Jack. So wrong. So, so wrong. I do hope that this 'development' in Jack and Ianto's relationship in season 3 - like Kalichan has said on her LJ - pushes the Gwack away for good. Can't take Gwen's show anymore. And will hate her even more if anything happens to Rhys. And obviously, hope it means more screentime for Ianto. By far my favorite character. <333333~

That said, GDL seems to be the greater guy fors con ever. I wish I could go to one of those. =/ I have certain questions to make people never seem to be curious about. Damn. And he does know _exactly_ which buttons to push regarding TW fans. I mean, most fans, at least. But even more, he KNOWS his character. He gets to understand Ianto deeply, and defend him assuredly and confidently because he knows where he's stepping, and all that, on a way I never saw any of the other actors doing. Actually, he captures the show's essence far better than the others. Like a fan, really. That makes things so amazing, perhaps the reason why Ianto stands out even being number 5 in screentime during first two seasons.

Creepy fans scare me. I feel embarrassed for them, really.

Just one minor note: GDL's fave line being one from Cap. John makes me giggle in joy. I love Cap. John. s2



Oh, so thank you for sharing your experiences at the con with us, people who can't get on a plane for that kind of stuff and tend to be really unhappy during those periods. Luckily there are good souls in the world to share it with us! =) I'll be looking forward for you next post, and the details - oh, the details! s2

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

"Dude fro TtLM talked about working with Simm when he was 12 or 13 and about what a fucking maniac the guy was and how it was totally awesome."

Did he give any specifics, she asked curiously?

[rm.livejournal.com]

Apparently the scene was rather violent and involved his character gatting dragged away at gunpoint by Simm's character, which resulted in the kid getting hit in the head a bit with a gun and saying that it was rather unpleasant (and of course laughing his ass off as he told the story).

[invisible-lift.livejournal.com]

I'll cop to the bad fan behavior charge if you're referring to the guy who asked about "punch fucking."

Yeah.

*hangs head in shame*

*really satisfied, awesome shame*

[explodeyy.livejournal.com]

Lol.
He is so Barrowman's bitch. He is so his bitch.
Gareth sounds amazing as ever. ♥

[kaimu.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much for the reports!

Gwen really needs someone like Rhys
*twirls with joy that everyone (ok, JB, Julie Gardner, Eve Myles, and GDL) is on the same page in regards to Gwen/Rhys*

[kalichan.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure she's talking about the chick who asked GDL out ;-) That wasn't you, was it? ;-)

Because really, can there ever be enough punchfucking?

[invisible-lift.livejournal.com]

Depends on what you sit on during the day, the size of the hands involved, and the amount of foreplay you get ahead of time. Quality of lubricant. Interest in anal pene --

Um. That was rhetorical, wasn't it?

(And no. I was the first of the two guys in line. I mean, I'd ask Gareth out, but he's depressingly heterosexual. I respect that.)

[alba17.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the report. I'll go spread the rumor that GDL is really Barrowman's bitch. And I can't wait for the tirade on bad fan behavior! I love tirades!

[kalichan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I figured not, on account of you not being a chick. But. You never know!

So depressingly heterosexual, that he's comfortable with expressing the man love. Sad that, can't even call him closeted. Damn them and their well adjustedness.

[thaddeusfavour.livejournal.com]

Ha! That was you? Funny, but I only heard you so I still don't know what you look like. I don't think that one counted as bad fan behavior. Kind of funny. It was the girls in line who were embarrassing as all get out.

[esporamor.livejournal.com]

how Jack and Ianto's relationship is mostly physical
You know, I could believe that in S1, but I can't buy it for S2.

"All right, none of you run to the Internet and post Gareth is totally Barrowman's bitch."
Oh dear Gareth, you already knew how this will turn out.

Thanks for the reports!!

[invisible-lift.livejournal.com]

Yep, that was me.

If you want to meet up, I'm likely to be wearing jeans, a camo shirt, and a red beret tomorrow. I've got glasses like Ten's, and I'm the only guy I've seen knitting in line so far. I've also got a second tag I've been wearing over my con tag with a pic like my icon and the word "Lifty" on it. I'll probably be heading to tomorrow's panel around 9 AM to get in line. After that I'm not sure.

In any case, I'll be around until Monday hitting the DW and TW stuff.

[thaddeusfavour.livejournal.com]

Darn it! Didn't read this in time. Will you be leaving Monday morning? We're staying until Tuesday morning. I'd love to meet up with you and will PM my cell number, hotel, and room number. We'll be staying in to watch the masquerade tonight (Sunday). I would very much like to see you if you have any time left. I wish I'd checked this before I got in line today as I was there.

Did you ask the Sweeney Todd question?

[invisible-lift.livejournal.com]

I'm leaving Monday, but we're free all the rest of today (until maybe a party) and until I leave.

Go ahead and send me your details. We'll rock this party.

And no, I was the one who asked about "Fragments."

[crankyholly.livejournal.com]

I hope I was well behaved. I just gave him a hat. I could barely do that, there was NO WAY I could have asked for a kiss or a hug.

[rm.livejournal.com]

You were so not what I was alluding to (which still needs posting).

I'm probably more sensitive about this stuff than a lot of people since I exist on both sides of the pro/fan line. But the girl with the flask was, to my mind, deeply inappropriate and disrespectful both to him and the other panelists, but to the audience and the fandom as a whole, and I know I'm far from alone on that opinion.