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I didn't feel, as many did, that this suffered from being the middle episode. I thought it was written tightly, drew the tension out well, and wasn't, THANK GOD, paced as insanely as Day 2. I loved the pacing of Day 2, but -- to use a sex metaphor, as seems appropriate for Torchwood -- just because I like a good hard pounding, doesn't mean I want to go there all the time. So I was really perfectly happy with the quieter, creepier pace of this, and though the episode did amazing work with silence and pauses. In fact, this is pretty much the non-verbal episode of awesome.

Like that whole Jack and Ianto thing? Who cares what they said! The way they looked at each other! But that said -- I did like the discussion about the explosion, I do like that the show let Jack admit that, yeah, he felt it (most disturbing thing I've ever heard is a recording from a cockpit of an airplane crash, and they always tell you people die instantly, but dude, I heard that plane crash and thumping and sounds and the pilot was STILL SCREAMING -- fast ain't instant) and then both Jack and Ianto realize this is something that while it needed acknowledging, didn't need discussing (okay, I think it needed discussing, but they have issues). Also the 20 minutes/30 minutes thing was hilarious, because apparently Ianto had a list going there.

Gwen hates smileys!

WHY THE FUCK DOES IANTO KNOW SHORTHAND? DId he go to secretarial college after being a drifter and before Torchwood hired him? Really? What?

Queer! They show used the word queer! That was sort of exciting (and I realize is a subject of consternation in fandom right now, but I'm too tired to address it right now, and conked my head on something in the bathroom, but I'll write about it tomorrow). Also sort of interesting in terms of the reaction delivery, because I felt like the "oi!" was any any guy reflex to friends being assholes and the "it's not 1965" thing a quiet thing he didn't realize he was quite telling himself until he said it. Go Ianto!

So, we know about Alice's mom, her time in Torchwood, got out with her memory in tact, and then taught her daughter and grandson survival tactics -- against alien invasion? against Torchwood? against Jack? Did they have a bad breakup, or was it the ageing thing that just made everyone go spare?

THE HUB 2. HI JAMES MORAN, YOU ARE SO CLEVER. *eyeroll* But we love you for it.

Jack being involved in 1965? Duh. Knew that. Didn't realize that was news to anyone. The only thing really creepy about that reveal, and it is really creepy, is when everyone asks why he says "as a gift." Not the immediate Jack explains it ws the best thing to do for humanity or he didn't have a choice or it was a shitty but pragmatic decision or becuase they demanded it. No, "as a gift." What the fuck, Jack? And what do these aliens want with the kids? Are they breeding a slave race? Why do kiddies make such a lovely gift? It feels deeply unsettling.

Frobisher's discussion with Jack, where he tells Jack he's the better man, and then Jack doesn't go in there and grab the guy's wife and kids. Poor Jack. Jesus, I am really, really feeling for him about Alice and Stephen. Really really really. I think they are goners.

Also, because I'm petty, I'd just like to note that IANTO CALLED JACK SIR AND JACK FUCKING LOVED IT (or at least the coat) so Hah, fucking Hah!

Torchwood contact lenses as sex toys! FIC NAO PLEAZ,

Right, that is all.

Tomorrow the real fear begins.

Date: 2009-07-09 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
Ianto knows everything, remember?

I really can't love on Alice and Stephen and that whole storyline enough. And I wonder how many other children Jack had before. We know that's at least 2, 3 relationships (Alice's mom, Estelle, and whoever that wedding was to) post time hopping and pre Ianto. I just want so much more from them. But it's Torchwood so things will never be answered and they'll never be happy and damn you, angst!

Date: 2009-07-09 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
We can assume, I think no kids with Estelle. We can't assume anything else, and there may well be stuff even Jack might not know about.

Date: 2009-07-09 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, I didn't mean he had kids with Estelle, just that we know of at least 3 relationships during that time now. I just have trouble thinking there weren't more, Jack being the omnisexual sex machine that he is. And more than that...150 years is a long, long time to be alone. There's so much potential history for his character at this point, and aside from SpikeJohn and the Grey thing we still don't even know who he was. I just need his backstory really, really badly.

Date: 2009-07-09 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woogledesigns.livejournal.com
And he reproduces as the Face of Bo.

Date: 2009-07-09 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
Yeah, but even Jack doesn't know about that yet! I want to know about him as Jack though, since the Doctor abandoned him until we meet him again at Torchwood. I'm glad that they've given him a family, even if it's estranged; I just wonder how many others he's got/had.

Date: 2009-07-09 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woogledesigns.livejournal.com
I'm sure he said he had been pregnant once when he first met the Doctor.

Date: 2009-07-09 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
I think he said that on the first episode of Torchwood.

Date: 2009-07-09 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woogledesigns.livejournal.com
Neato!
Your userpic is really cute. It makes me pine for someone to backpockethands with.

Date: 2009-07-09 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealycats.livejournal.com
Thanks :) It's from Freaks and Geeks. Actually in context it's kind of creepy >:D

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