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"You're only 27-years-old."

Yes, Torchwood fans, that's when I started crying. Tell me I wasn't alone.

"Oh this bloody job never gave me a chance." Oh HAI THERE TORCHWOOD REFERENCE.

...

Oh CRAZY CRAZY TEN HUBRIS. NOW YOU ARE THE MASTER's PERFECT BOYFRIEND.

Also, seriously... CoE parallels. Once again Doctor Who making what happened there much, much easier to live with, because it provides the act and the context for Jack's actions and the consequences of him having chosen differently. And wow, the Doctor so can't deal with Jack because he hates himself.

I love the degree to which we feel the Doctor really needs to regenerate soon, because he's become dangerous.

There are so many echoes of so many weird things in here... including the Ood.

Also, who else is utterly, completely, totally convinced, like from the second the Doctor start monologue-ing about about how Adelaide inspires her daughter that Jack is absolutely, definitely, descended from her.

Hey, close up of the TARDIS central column -- that's a goddamn film spool in the middle moving up and down. HOW GREAT IS THAT AS META? FUCK ME THIS SHOW IS RAD.

Oh, Doctor, you've done a very bad thing.

Also, hello, channeling Nine. That's some rad acting there, DT.

I know cannon will never tell us but is this why the Doctor couldn't step in re: CoE or is CoE why he went and did something dumb like this or did CoE happen because he did this shit? Because I really feel like while TW addresses Doctor Who explicitly, Doctor Who can only address Torchwood implicitly, and IT'S RIGHT HERE, KIDS.

Ood! I called it, Ood! (they really are the best fucking thing the new series has brought us). Ood!

Also, not only had Jack better be there for the regeneration, I have to say, that while we'll never (we hope) get a permanent Doctor death in canon, in fanon, my feeling after this episode is that Jack _must_ be there when the Doctor does finally truly die, because it is the only way to resolve the control/comfort/time dramarama shit between them.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, PEOPLE THIS IS WHY I WATCH THIS SHOW.

Date: 2009-11-18 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlebelleblue.livejournal.com
I think at this point he didn't care about the timeline any more - if he had taken them to a point in the future, he wouldn't be crazy!Doctor, he'd still be respecting the rules of time, whatever those are. The fact that he thought he could and should just insert them back into their own lives, consequences-and-logic-be-damned was, I think, supposed to be an indication to the viewer that something is really, really wrong here, and he isn't quite operating with a full bag of marbles.

He looked like a big puppy, wanting to be given a pat on the head for saving the day, as opposed to saving them because it was what should have been done. He wanted gratitude, and that was truly scary.

And yeah, I was wondering if she was going to shoot, too.

Date: 2009-11-18 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com
This.

He does with them exactly what he does in Pompeii. He yoinks them out and deposits them safely back into society. Which, in Pompeii, he does get rewarded for.

Date: 2009-11-18 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlebelleblue.livejournal.com
Plus, in Pompeii, there was no internet, etc. The family could have just said they were on a day trip or something and no one would have questioned it. Or they were the smart/lucky ones who chose to run in the right direction and not stay and try to salvage valuables. There were survivors at Pompeii, so I think in the long run, it wouldn't have mattered if four more random people escaped. As opposed to a nuclear explosion where nobody was supposed to have lived.

So, in Pompeii, it was something that could be safely rewarded.

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