She didn't play a dangerous game. Her sexuality was not immoral. She did not rob herself of her own childhood.
She did, however, kill herself.
Bullying kills. Sex negativity kills. Misogyny kills. Not the Internet (hell, sometimes the Internet can help you get justice). Not a teenager being a teenager. Not taking your clothes off. Not wanting approval. Not new technology.
I will say this over and over again. Bullying is not just a childhood phenomena (workplace bullying happens ALL THE TIME, and geez, we're all on the Internet, yeah?) nor is it one of those things kids just need to learn to deal with (I do agree our society is too protective of children, bullying is not a part of this in my mind), nor is it something the child who is targeted should be blamed for. Additionally, adults should not participate in bullying children. Should be obvious right? It wasn't obvious in my own childhood and apparently it's still not.
Hope Witsell was not a whore.
Infinitus really wants queer content because of the whole gay Dumbledore thing, but other than the Snape/female heroism paper I've given twice now, I've got nothing.
Argh!
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:21 pm (UTC)Ugh, me too - I back-buttoned after about a split-second.
For one - erm, way to alienate a potential buyer: who's to say that women won't wear Dockers too? (I bought a pair of men's work-trousers from one of those army-navy stores when I needed something that wouldn't mind a bit of paint and elbow-grease for amateur-theatrical purposes.)
For another - way to insult the intelligence of the men who are proposing to buy the product for themselves. Blech.
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:22 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:23 pm (UTC)And I'd look far better in the dress. Since moving out of the city I've noticed all those hills have done wonders for my calves.
Besides, there are only two groups of people who have any business wearing khaki, physicists and paleontologists on a dig.
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:29 pm (UTC)Hope's parents disgust me. They failed their daughter in so many ways.
I hope the talks I'm having with kidlet are sticking. That she's learning that her body isn't shameful and how to cope with the double standards and be a decent person and not hide her intelligence and not hate guys even though too many are dorks, and...and...and...
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:38 pm (UTC)Thanks for pointing this out. I'm sending them a note about how this ad campaign is endangering their repeat business relationship with a previously satisfied customer in the demographic they think they're targetting with this ad.
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:39 pm (UTC)That poor girl was failed so many ways by so many people. I don't care what people say: having to drag yourself to school Monday to Friday, for years and years, under those conditions--the last thing it could ever be is a fucking character building experience.
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:42 pm (UTC)Edit: Thank you for the contact form link.
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:43 pm (UTC)Here's the contact info page for Dockers. They bury it deep.
http://us.dockers.com/helpdesk/index.jsp?display=store&subdisplay=contact
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Date: 2009-12-10 06:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 06:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 07:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 07:12 pm (UTC)Just the landing page has made me very twitchy, too.
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Date: 2009-12-10 07:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 07:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 07:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 07:44 pm (UTC)"Forgive my bluntness, but your "Wear the Pants" campaign is both stupid and offensive. Lattes, apparently, make men gay -- or, worse, female? Our society is genderless? Your tissue-thin, wedgie-inducing wrinkle-the-first-time-you-sit-down-in-them trousers are going to induce maturity? I'm sure you mean this to be funny, but basically it's one girl humping a drainpipe away from being an Axe body spray ad.
The best thing I ever did with a pair of Dockers was rip the seams open and remake them into a skirt."
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Date: 2009-12-10 07:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 08:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 08:07 pm (UTC)I wrote a complaint to Dockers as well. That ad campaign is vile.
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Date: 2009-12-10 08:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-10 08:13 pm (UTC)And the Dockers thing..augh! Thank you for the heads up.
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Date: 2009-12-10 09:46 pm (UTC)Yes, yes, a thousand times yes, to this. I think the key thing here is that the term "bullying" is often used to obfuscate the fact that what is going on is abuse, pure and simple. It is not something that can be ignored or dropped, it is about people being hurt and humiliated at the hands of others.
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Date: 2009-12-10 10:43 pm (UTC)Which why I'm semi spiting them and doing a panel on gender instead of sexuality. But, I mean, at least they want stuff on queer theory, even if it is just for Dumbledore.
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Date: 2009-12-10 11:35 pm (UTC)WIN!!!
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Date: 2009-12-10 11:36 pm (UTC)Thanks for the contact link...sent them a nastygram.
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Date: 2009-12-10 11:48 pm (UTC)As seen on an episode of Seinfeld...
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Date: 2009-12-11 12:23 am (UTC)Ugh. I guess I won't be getting any of those for my DH for Yule. :P
The response from Dockers...
Date: 2009-12-11 12:23 am (UTC)We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Sincerely,
Sonia S.
Customer Service Representative
Customer Service at www.dockersstore.com
If you have additional questions, please visit our online Help Desk.
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Date: 2009-12-11 12:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-11 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-11 12:53 am (UTC)As for Hope Witsell's suicide - the incident is a tragedy and the reaction about "sexting" is impressively misguided. Perhaps it's the fact that I'm childfree and have never wanted children, but I remain baffled about so many adults over-reactions to teenage sexuality, while also ignoring major problems like bullying. I remember being 14 and bullied, do most adults suddenly forget this fact when dealing with teens?
Re: The response from Dockers...
Date: 2009-12-11 01:17 am (UTC)~~~
Thank you for contacting Customer Service at www.dockersstore.com.
We sincerely apologize if our recent ad offended you. We appreciate the feedback and opinions of all our customers. We will forward your comments to our corporate office.
Please let us know if there is anything else we can do for you, and
thank you again for contacting Customer Service at www.dockersstore.com.
Sincerely,
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Date: 2009-12-11 02:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-11 02:49 am (UTC)This is one of my biggest problems with the advertising game : the concept that you can bring about emotional and/or social change by consuming a product. It's total bullshit, and it's demeaning to anyone with a brain.
This on top of the backhanded comments about sexuality, gender roles, and stereotypes.
It makes me sad that some people somewhere are actually convinced to buy pants based on this.
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Date: 2009-12-11 02:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-11 02:56 am (UTC)what really blows my mind is that the article clearly says he pulled a mac-10 and fired a few rounds ( before it jammed. Mac-10 is the lol of guns ) and then the cop shot him.
so basically guy whips out a semi auto in Times Square and lights off a few rounds before being taken down by the NYPD.
Read the comments on the story ... people are assuming, or not reading , or not capable of reading .... and going off as if the cop just shot him for being an illegal street vendor!
People scare me. This is why.
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Date: 2009-12-11 02:59 am (UTC)Sorry. I got carried away. Hahaha.
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Date: 2009-12-11 04:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-11 04:07 am (UTC)Ok, I'm being a little snarky here, but seriously -- they're trying to sell KHAKIS as being the pant of the "manly" virtues they themselves are implying here?
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Date: 2009-12-11 04:58 pm (UTC)Re: The response from Dockers...
Date: 2009-12-11 11:37 pm (UTC)Sarah here from Levi's(r). Thanks for checking in with us.
The Dockers(r) "Wear The Pants" campaign is intended to give men a reason to love their khakis, the focus of this campaign. We apologize if our efforts did not resonate with you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. We'll definitely pass them along to our Marketing colleagues who pay close attention to consumer feedback.
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Date: 2009-12-11 11:45 pm (UTC)