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On the other hand, the performances were very good, and the costumes were luscious and remarkably accurate. The film was also erotic, both in normal obvious ways and in ways that I tend to assume was just me (because hi, how many close-ups did we really need of various people winding or unwinding neck-scarves?). Unless you really care about weird historical geekery this is a rental, but we care!
Also I did not know, but after Albert's death, Victoria had his clothes laid out each day for the rest of her life; for a moment, I could not breathe. I am living in a strange country with this Bristol paper.
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Date: 2009-12-21 04:56 pm (UTC)I'm pretty irritated by the bruhaha surrounding the AMF sign. Yes it's symbolic, yes it's creepy, but no - people stealing it are not out to desecrate a memorial, the gate is a gate through which I walked and thought of Hollywood, not my dead great grandparents.
Maybe I'm cynical, but it pisses me off that a sigh-hunt is more successful over a weekend than most murders and/or rapes.
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Date: 2009-12-21 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 05:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 04:59 pm (UTC)It's crass to wonder about the cause of death with a value judgement. I do wonder, however, about drastic weight loss and arrhythmia.
People who say she "deserved" it in any way nauseate me.
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Date: 2009-12-21 05:33 pm (UTC)This is what I thought, too. Women in their middle years need protien or they loose too much heart muscle. It's a problem for vegans and vegetarians. But mostly vegans. Especially if you cut out soy which is really problematic for women over 30.
I just wonder if she lost too much heart muscle to live. Which is even sadder when you look at responses to her death mostly saying how big hearted she was. Not big hearted enough for her self.
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Date: 2009-12-21 06:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 09:10 pm (UTC)That said, if that is the case, it's up to her family to choose whether or not to speak out on that, at their own discretion and on their own timetable. I've always admired Karen Carpenter's family, for example, for speaking out about her anorexia at a time when it wasn't widely discussed.
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Date: 2009-12-21 05:07 pm (UTC)I agree, though, that a lot of the speculation about what caused her death has be nauseating.
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Date: 2009-12-21 05:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 05:32 pm (UTC)I wonder if the government is ever going to express the same sentiment regarding those jackbooted assholes at the metal detectors.
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Date: 2009-12-21 06:05 pm (UTC)I did not know this, either, and I'm so glad you posted it.
As re: Brittany Murphy's death - I know that some people were saying that she didn't deserve sympathy, but I think for many, trying to guess what could have caused her death is a way of trying to deal with someone so young dying of a cause that is completely unexpected. A 32-year old woman dying of cardiac arrest is not typical, and it comes as no surprise that so many are speculating why she died. People don't like to think of "the young" being struck down by death. I noted this morning that there are some who said she was quite ill but a few hours before she died. I just feel terrible for her family and friends. Losing someone is heart-rending, and it only makes it worse when it's around a time of year that's supposed to be about family and love and joy.
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Date: 2009-12-22 12:07 am (UTC)I do think, sadly, that this thought process can then lead to justification and blaming sometimes, and is partly responsible for some of the stereotypes about people who suffer misfortune.
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Date: 2009-12-21 06:09 pm (UTC)This really seems to be the week / month for people to be musing on Bad Things Done In One's Twenties... I know I'm culpable that way too. The holidays, perhaps?
2] If you cut stuff open, stuff can get out. I dunno. It's hard to explain. I'm weirded out.
Believe it or not, I get this, although I can't explain it, either.
3] Also I did not know, but after Albert's death, Victoria had his clothes laid out each day for the rest of her life; for a moment, I could not breathe.
I *did* know this, and it resounds with me every time I am reminded of it. It sounds like something I would do.
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Date: 2009-12-21 06:14 pm (UTC)They wanted to sell the sign? I feel ill about this. I was sort of entertaining a vague hope that it was some misguided desire to purge the evil it represented. I suspected, as I think many did, that it was an effort by deniers to silence the truth. I have no way to process the idea it was for profit, like it's a famous work of art and we live in a heist movie...with protagonists too stupid to realize cutting the damn thing reduces its value.
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Date: 2009-12-21 06:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 06:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 07:30 pm (UTC)http://library.metmuseum.org/search/?searchtype=X&searcharg=+by+James+R.+Keiser+&searchscope=1&SORT=D&SUBMIT=Search
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 07:19 pm (UTC)More seriously, those are some dumb thieves if they planned to sell the sign. At least, I'm pretty sure there's not a thriving black-market in stolen historical landmarks.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 07:43 pm (UTC)Buh. Still, I suppose you can be "arem" like there's "enyce" - it's all fonetik.
And yes, I hadn't ruled drugs or eating disorders out as possible in the Brittany Murphy case, but she still had my sympathy because sometimes things are effed up like that, particularly when there's a pressure on people like her to Stay Pretty. And sudden death syndrome is just as likely in an otherwise ostensibly hale and healthy person in the prime of life. Alas.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:57 pm (UTC)Whatever it was, some people are just stupid :/
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Date: 2009-12-21 10:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 10:42 pm (UTC)This. A young woman is dead, and even if the culprit is an eating disorder or drugs, it's a tragedy. Those who parcel out compassion and basic human decency only for those they find 'deserving' needn't look so hard in others to find moral failing. A simple glance in the mirror will show them an abundance.
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:09 pm (UTC)I had a friend die a a few years ago of a massive heart attack. She was a dance teacher and was at the time at the gym working out. She was also diabetic.
Heart disease is massively underresearched in women. Early symptoms include the non-specific ones, you know, like "fatigue" and "shortness of breath". If I was at the gym I would be concerned if I *wasn't* fatigued or short of breath.
My heart goes out to Brittany's family and friends. I might watch "Clueless" tonight with my friends.
Ekatarina
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-22 04:51 am (UTC)no subject
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