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coatkneedee needs about $200 to prevent legal action from being taken against her for an old tuition bill. $$, advice for dealing with collections agencies, job leads in the region, etc. all of potential use. (Go, Team Internet! the immediate part of the $$ crisis is solved).

The Yes Men are responsible for hoax about proposed (fake) bill requiring gay Utah citizens to accept "treatment" or leave the state. Who's more pissed now? Gay folks or Utah? via ravenskye8.

On the on sex and the off-label use of our bodies. via _fx. Note: this post is on the Blowfish blog. There's no NSFW images on the page, but it is part of the Blowfish sex-toy shop website.

Same-sex marriages start in DC today.

sparkindarkness has a roundup of anti-LGBTQ evil.

The more literate a country is, the more likely it is for its citizens to prefer boy babies over girls. via reannon.

Frozen Dead Guy Days 2010.

Okay, I've been a little grumpy about this Tron remake thing. I mean, I _love_ Tron, but it also seemed to be the movie on the TV every single time I wound up in the ER in college (from my own medical mishaps to friends getting gay bashed). But then popfiend linked to the trailer for the new thingy. Um, yeah, I'm on board. Also can I just pause to say that there were some things about the '80s that were fucking great? I loved how much time we spent obsessing on how sexy the future was going to be solely because we really fucking hated Reagan and hey, let's play Space Invaders.

Last night we finished season 3 or Buffy, and started season 4.

I really don't know why the Buffy/Angel plotline annoys me SO MUCH. It's well done. It hits all the right notes. It's the kind of emotional suffering I tend to care about. But somehow I don't get why either of them like each other. And I feel like a hypocrite about that considering I'm all over the Jack/Ianto relationship which has a lot of the same problems (they get together WHY? the age difference is WHAT?). Maybe it's just that David Boreanaz's acting is nothing to write home about. Don't know.

LOVED the moment when all the kids stand up to fight. That's some fantastic shit. Was, believe it or not, sort of sad to see the principal get eaten. Don't love the psychic coma Buffy/Faith crap (yes, I'm complaining about a lack of realism in a show with demon ascensions, shut up).

What the hell was that whole Wesley/Cordelia thing? Like, worst kiss ever because they apparently have negative chemistry in actual practice or because Wesley has no experience at all or what? Sadly, I still sort of like them together in a where's the Cordelia/Wesley pegging fic, thanks way.

And Giles! He gets around, now doesn't he?

Also, Sunnydale U. is so conspicuously the high school set redressed it's hilarious. (Except apparently I'm wrong and just think everything in California looks alike).

Comments

[tommx.livejournal.com]

You might, at a later date, want to try Angel just to see the continuation of Wesley's development. His journey is interesting if a bit convoluted at times.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Oh we're watching it. I have been told from since before I started watching the series that I will identify with Wesley. This remains not the case, but he amuses me tremendously.

[reannon.livejournal.com]

I think the whole Wes/Cordelia thing was kind of skeezy, and while it provided some amusement for us, I was glad that when they finally kissed it was AWFUL. Maybe the worst TV kiss ever. And that alone was funny. Because sometimes you just look at someone and think Oh Yeah and when you finally get the chance... not so much. I loved it, and it was a neat way to have them part ways in preparation for Cordy's departure to ANGEL.

(I don't believe for a second that they knew poor Glenn Quinn was a raging addict and would have to be written off the show and replaced halfway through the first season. Suuuure, it was planned that way! A gracious lie, but a lie nonetheless.) Still, the others are right: Wes's character arc is fascinating from Buffy to Angel and through the series. SO worth watching, and far more grown up than BUFFY. While Buffy sticks very much to a black-or-white, good-vs-evil view of the universe, ANGEL deals with the places in between, the gray areas and the search for redemption. It's more complex than Buffy's moral absolutes and tends to be more even in the writing (BUFFY had some really awful eps toward the end).

Still love BUFFY. But ANGEL rocks too. (Edited because I'm an idiot who didn't see your comment above.)

[laura47.livejournal.com]

your icon is going to make me crrrrry

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

My favourite thing about the Buffy/Angel relationship was how they moved on from it. Which doesn't really speak well for the thing itself, I know, but it makes it easier to go back and watch in retrospect. I like the way it kind of comes to feel like a thing they both did together and had to do, but they do both move on and grow past it and it gets to a point where it's just not going to happen no matter what their circumstances because they're both different people. That felt realistic to me, which I kind of appreciated, because I'm far too shrivelled up and cynical for that true-romance-world-ending-love kind of thing.

On a slight tangent too, I must say, I had doubts about DB's acting, even loving him in Angel, until I saw him in Bones, because I felt his character there has such a different energy to Angel, he must really have something going on.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I don't think DB is a terrible actor, I think he's just good at playing a very ordinary guy (vampirism or whatever aside) and that doesn't resonate for me. Whereas I can often overlook some of JB's more awful acting moments because the character is so odd, it still works for me.

[thatwordgrrl.livejournal.com]

Actually -- tho' it will become more apparent further into season 4 -- UC Sunnydale is actually located on the UCLA campus. :>

[rm.livejournal.com]

Some of those hallways are TOTALLY the high school set redressed.

[gement.livejournal.com]

I was actually fond of the psychic coma stuff, for high mythology reasons. It goes like this:

1) There's only ever one Slayer.

2) The Slayer (Buffy) has a demonstrable track record of precognitive dreams where there's apocalypse involved.

3) There's more than one Slayer.

I just happily assumed that they both tapped into the switchboard that was never upgraded from Party Line because there was never more than one user. But I'm an old Sandman junkie, so I eat up the trippy dream logic.

Love love love love Giles. On a police car?

[rm.livejournal.com]

Twice??!?!?!?

[blu-22.livejournal.com]

I'm curious to know, will you be watching Angel alongside Buffy S4 as they aired originally or will you wait until you're done with Buffy before committing to Angel full time? I watched the shows simultaneously when they were on the air, but I haven't gone back too much since then to watch them independently. I wonder if/how it changes the dynamic/viewing experience one way or the other.

[rm.livejournal.com]

We've been given a list of the "right" order much like the list I always give people for Doctor Who and Torchwood and will be following that.

Thanks for sharing the link...

[popfiend.livejournal.com]

The thing about Tron is that it is important technologically and in the scheme of the art of movie making, but it's not that great a film.

It has geek/nerd cache because of it's place in movie history, but it's an average movie with some very nice creative bursts.

Tron Legacy is a child of Tron in 2 ways. A sequel to the original and inheritor of the technology transformation Tron was a part of.

But it also looks damn cool.

So my geek/nerd glands are fired up.

Re: Thanks for sharing the link...

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm psyched for it for all the same reasons (plus, I have a soft spot for the light-cycles, and I'm pleased to see that the new film keeps the best parts of that design).

[pandarus.livejournal.com]

Eh, I didn't find Buffy/Angel annoying, but I was never particularly invested in it. Angel/Darla, on the other hand, I was all over ("God doesn't want you, but I still do!") - and I loved the way it cast Angel/Buffy as just another case of Angel working through his enduring Darla issues by mooning over the hot little blonde chick who can kick his ass. (And I also &hearts Angel/Lindsey. And Angel/Lindsey/Darla. And Angel/Spike.) And I ship the living crap out of Buffy/Faith too. And Wesley/Me er, and I have an unhealthy level of fannish love for Wesley, and fully support the notion of Wesley/Cordelia pegging fic. Jolly good notion, that.

Awww, Season 3! The Prom! "Ascend already!" Faith! ...man, I need to rewatch.

[elisi]

I really don't know why the Buffy/Angel plotline annoys me SO MUCH. It's well done. It hits all the right notes. It's the kind of emotional suffering I tend to care about. But somehow I don't get why either of them like each other.
Heh. It does have those Bella/Edward vibes. :) But trying to look a little deeper, then I think that when people fall in love it's often very illogical (and also generally very boring to anyone on the outside looking in) - but mostly (especially when it's a High School romance) they'll fall out of love, and when looking back a year or two later wonder what on Earth they saw in each other. Buffy and Angel never got to that second stage as such, since the romance was cut off at its height, and then all through S3 they had that pesky curse stopping them from moving forward. And watching someone stuck in the same place for a whole season gets a bit boring.

And Giles! He gets around, now doesn't he?
Mmmm, Ripper. And just the idea of Watchers generally - something that Ianto tapped *straight* into. :)

And I feel like a hypocrite about that considering I'm all over the Jack/Ianto relationship which has a lot of the same problems (they get together WHY? the age difference is WHAT?)
Oh but Jack/Ianto is *so* much more screwed up, and doesn't have any Twu Luw pretensions.

[redstapler.livejournal.com]

That Tron trailer is unutterably sexy.

I can't believe that's a sentence I can say with such validity.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I want to cosplay the fuck out of that.

My theory, which is mine

[mecurtin.livejournal.com]

I think boy preference is about social security. South Korea's traditional boy-biased culture changed almost overnight when they got social security and parents no longer had to have sons to be supported in their old age.

Re: My theory, which is mine

[bugeyedmonster.livejournal.com]

What's amazing to me in that last article, is how much has changed in so short a time. 6 out of 10 women going to college now, as compared to 1 out of 10 in 1981. Wow.

[sihaya09.livejournal.com]

I am just here because there is discussion of Wesley going on and I am a dyed in the wool Wesley fangirl.

[laughingacademy.livejournal.com]

Sweet lord, that is a damn sexy trailer. DO WANT.

The literacy/gender preference thing seems counter-intuitive to me. Not to mention scary.

[laura47.livejournal.com]

buffy was a year ahead of me in school, so i was a junior when they graduated, and i think i had chills when they all stood up to fight at graduation. when i was 16 i got quoted in a tv column in newsday saying how i thought buffy was the most realistic portrayal of high school life on TV. It was so important to little teenaged me! reading you talk about it basically gives me flashbacks.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

I was actually very invested in the Buffy/Angel storyline, right up to the end of season two. He provided the perfect sounding board for Buffy having to grow up, and it was painfully beautiful to watch her move from puppy love to real love... and then having to come to terms with his evil side, and actually having to kill him herself.

But when he came back in s3, that was just pushing it.

And yeah, I'm among those who just don't buy Boreanaz's acting.

[laura47.livejournal.com]

ha! speaking of the high school set! here is a vid about it, it's cute: http://stacialy.livejournal.com/797.html

[laughingirl.livejournal.com]

I was never a fan of Buffy and Angel... they just annoyed me... until an episode of Angel which, in *my* head, still counts as one of my favorite episodes of Buffy. Then I was a little more sympathetic.

[mzlizzy.livejournal.com]

The college footage of Buffy (at least the outdoors stuff) was filmed at UCLA. It's often used as a filming location, and was recently seen in a Jack-in-the-Box commercial.

The High School is one that has been closed in Torrance, and used for filming for several series.

Living in LA makes me giggle at outdoor shots for shows. I recognize so many of the locations.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

I recognize so many of the locations.

Same for me whenever I'm watching "Law & Order" or something that's been filmed in NYC. (What annoys me is when stuff is supposed to be set in NYC and it's very clearly been filmed elsewhere. That Spider-Man film that was very clearly shot in Chicago? I was disappointed.)

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

"Off-label use of our bodies."

That's an awesome link, thank you.

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

re: buffy - all i can say is, pay attention to the little minor things now (epsecially s2 & 3), b/c they will crop up later
i was never a buffy/angel fan, either - they annoyed the hell out of me (i think the difference between them and j/i is that we didn't really see all of their possible angst on screen)
re: wesley and cordy, you should really follow them over to angel

[shipchan.livejournal.com]

Thanks a lot for boosting coatkneedee's post. She is a good friend and it's really nice to see it here getting more views.

Also I too was worried about the Tron remake, but I think it looks like it may be pretty awesome.

[bugeyedmonster.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the links.

As for the Buffy comments, man it's been so long since BtVS I might have to rewatch.

As to the Yes Man thing; they've got a point. (I'm going to go try to see if it's on YouTube so I can pass it around.)

What with some of the signs I've seen so-called "Christian" protesters carry I can see where the Yes Men could claim they're getting close to Nazi style stuff. First you go to saying it is okay to hate "the Other" then it's okay to bash "the Other" and then perhaps it becomes it is okay to kill off "the Other."

Plus in light with some of the anti-gay stuff happening in Africa and Eastern Europe, maybe one could see the Yes Man performance as a warning to caution us not to go down the same path.

[rusty_halo.livejournal.com]

I liked Buffy/Angel in season two, because her pain at sending her lover to hell was so palpable, and because I was young enough when I first saw it to buy into the twu wuv fantasy.

But it was dragged out pointlessly in season three, and I was so offended when he dumped her "for her own good." (Condescending, much?) I always felt there was a passivity to Buffy/Angel--it was all about them being "fated" to be together, and then when they couldn't make it work, they gave up instead of communicating and working together to fix things.

Plus, in retrospect, they barely even know each other and had almost nothing in common. They were each in love with a fantasy image of the other, not the actual person behind it.

I'm glad you'll be watching Angel, too--everyone who's telling you that Wesley is awesome is right. Oooh, and Spike is coming back soon, too.

[lllvis.livejournal.com]

I really enjoyed the episode "Zeppo" from the 3rd season!

[delchi.livejournal.com]

Tron trailer ... oh HELL yes.

I have a strange feeling they won't cut out the sex scene this time.

Also : why did my brain superimpose David Bowie over the guy playing air guitar?