Articles like this make me seethe, for starts because not only is our educational system shit, I have watched it go from bad to worse and watch kids on Craigslist hire people to write their essays -- for college admissions, for their film school class, for their fucking med school unit! So many of my friends teach university here, at _good_ schools, and the student who can express themselves cogently (not elegantly, just with basic subject/verb and an understanding of how if/then works) is absolutely, positively the except to the rule. And it galls me. So for starts, wow, our education system needs fixing in about eight hundred different places in about eight hundred different ways.
Next: if boys are so behind in school, why are men still so ahead in the workplace? Oh right, because it doesn't count when women do things (and well get back to that later, I'm going somewhere broader with this). An academically successful woman doesn't count for anything. She can't be seen as a leader, after all. And women are good with the school thing, it's not special. Dime a dozen. Ignore her. Ignore them. Women - interchangeable parts, all the same, you know how it goes. Now let's say we can even stomach the reality of the above and are okay with it (and apparently large swathes, even a majority of our society, is). Now we do have a serious problem: the people we're letting get ahead are skills-poor.
This business of "women don't count" (insert snarky "math is hard" joke here) is hardly anything new. In fact
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It comes up too in arenas that many of you would consider not to matter. If you're aware of the OTW you know that part of their mission statement says "we value our identity as a predominantly female community with a rich history of creativity and commentary."
I'm a member of the OTW, and I think the statement is essentially true, and I still hate it. Because what it says is that there are activities people do and activities women do. It's self-othering, it's not particularly reflective of the fandom I spend the most time in (Torchwood -- whose dominant culture, I would argue is queer, gender aside) these days, and it -- in its attempt to do anything but -- plays into the "see, some boys write fanfiction" speech a whole lot of women do to somehow legitimize fannish creation.
95% of new students in general aviation are men. Hardly any women. But airplanes are real and not sin.
I am sick of a world in which the presence of women devalues activities, educations, television shows (even though women make more purchases than men in almost every category, a male demographic is preferred by advertisers) and desires merely by their turning their eyes towards something.
But it's nothing new. And I don't, tragically, believe it will ever be anything old and quaint and once was either. And it's one of the small reasons I can never be quite happy: because nearly everything I have ever been taught -- by my parents, by my schools, by my fandom, by more than a few lovers, and by my persecutors -- tells me one simple thing. Because I have a cunt, when I love something, I make it less. It's a strange power, being the null, and it's not one I want or like or enjoy and I would like to give it back now.
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Date: 2010-03-29 02:19 pm (UTC)These laws are pretty common, but generally not for the reasons stated in the article. What's the usual reason, you ask? Here's a hint: many similar laws prohibit more than X unrelated women living together. Got it? Yep, it's a law aimed at preventing whore houses! Lovely, huh?
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Date: 2010-03-29 02:31 pm (UTC)The education system in the UK has gone from bad to worse also - too much meddling from politicians amongst other things, but also a general dumbing down of culture. Intelligence is not valued in the way it once was.
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Date: 2010-03-29 02:39 pm (UTC)Female pilot here. I do agree with all your points in this post - but remember, when you consider general aviation across North American, 5% is still a lot of women.
Rowing is an interesting phenomenon. All rowers agree that it's about the hardest, most taxing sport there is (yes, we're biased, but we've also got data substantiating the point). Once you get past college and the national team level to club and masters rowing, women are a definite majority of new rowers. We also tend to be better at learning it (there's a lot to be said for being willing to learn technique before you try to apply power). Now it's true that club and masters rowing gets less glory than junior or collegiate rowing, but I think that's mostly because adults' sports in general do get less attention. But at least no one devalues womens' rowing in favor of men's. These days, anyway - it's may be telling to look at the history, in which Ernestine Bayers was being told "women don't row" in Philadelphia at the same time Dorothy L. Sayers was writing Gaudy Night, which features a fair number of .... women rowing.
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Date: 2010-03-29 03:09 pm (UTC)For as long as I have been reading on the subject, I have never heard this put so bluntly or so well.
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Date: 2010-03-29 04:05 pm (UTC)I've taken the bus for years (never lived in a city with a subway), and this is seriously my biggest pet peeve EVER. I don't understand why people can't sit beside someone if a seat is empty, and choose instead to stand at the front of the bus and completely block the seats available for everyone else getting on. Never mind block the aisle for people trying to get off too. ARGH!
Sorry, I just ranted about this the other day at a buddy. Poor girl, she never takes the bus so she totally didn't understand. :)
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Date: 2010-03-29 04:51 pm (UTC)I have never learned the lesson that being female denies me anything.
My mother was the first female foreman on a roof in our state.
She is the first female president of her union, locally, nationally, internationally. It's not something she fought for, it's not something she had to battle the ideas of men to earn, honestly, it's something they asked her to step up and DO because they needed strong leadership at that time.
Maybe it's the Midwest, we are very strange here sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I get the idea on the television, I see it in books and articles, it's just always been... Well, like looking at a National Geographic of a far away land to me.
Gender has nothing to do with what I can achieve. What I'm willing to do for it does.
Perhaps it is how I was raised, who knows.
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Date: 2010-03-29 10:43 pm (UTC)I thought it ironic that the journalist's solution to boys doing badly in school was to dumb down their reading material. The dumbing down of boys' lives is the problem. For decades experts have been predicting that TV would create a population of hyperactive kids with short attention spans, and here they are! Throw in the habits instilled by video games, which is constant action, and what do we expect? It just happened that boys were more suspectiable to the effect, probably because of chemical differences in our brains.
Don't worry, ladies. Capitalism is invincible. Resistance is futile. Capitalism cares not about your gender; its sexism is leftover from the old days. There will be no meaningful education reform because we don't like taxes. Women outnumber men in the workplace right now, because the Great Recession hit men's traditional jobs harder than women's. It is only a matter of rising through the ranks as the Old Boy's Club ages out.
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Date: 2010-03-30 12:36 am (UTC)As for boys lagging behind girls in school, well yeah I've heard this before and while I can see it being a concern, you make a good point about how men are still so far ahead of women in the workplace. I'd be interested to learn the reason for boys not doing as well in school, but I also think the fact that this doesn't translate over into an advantage in the workplace for women needs to be addressed.
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Date: 2010-03-30 03:31 am (UTC)Looking at some other people's comments on similar laws in other states, it does also seem logical that the laws were made to discriminate against illegal immigrants, or even immigrants in general.
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Date: 2010-03-30 05:44 am (UTC)As for the rest, it may mean little or nothing - and in all likelihood it will make you more angry - but I will state that I have never seen you as a "cunt" or a "penis" or something "less". Once I got over being afraid of you , I found you to be the kind of advanced intelligent person that I could learn things from. I count you amongst my friends, some who have cunts, some who have penises, and some who have exchanged one for the other. In that respect to me personally gender in meaningless - either a person is a friend or not - and regardless of gender I spend time with, assist , or do favors for my friends. I learned from you a long time ago that gender should not be an issue when it comes to business - either you can do the job or you can not. Between the ears, not between the legs. Because of the things you taught me , when the rest of my office was freaking out over the MtF sales rep I was more upset at the reactions of my peers than the fact that we had one of "those" working for us. Because of the people I have met through you I have found ideas for my own fanfic that I would have never thought of. Despite out disagreements, our head-butting, and lack of insight into each others worlds, I continue to label you as a friend.
The situation you describe is very accurate , but it is also fluid. I believe there is a place and a path for change - and that if it is not here in this country/culture then it will be born in another one. you may never live to see the day that corrects the wrongs you see around you, but your words will inspire people (and already have) to stand up for themselves and for what is right. Each person as they grow and learn meets people that inspire them to make change , and that change manifests itself over time.
What you are describing in some ways can be seen as a social & economic slavery in which women are bound into at birth. History has shown that slavery can be beaten.
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Date: 2010-03-30 09:20 am (UTC)I am dead, and I did not exist and Because I have a cunt, when I love something, I make it less..
That's like, the female condition at all times. It resonated like whoah. You know, my brother showed me that the Wikipedia says that there is no evidence to suggest that lesbians were persecuted under the black triangle. I mean, wiki is going to take over the
worldthe internet soon and there is still so much that needs to be acknowledged, written down, owned... something.I grew up in a feminist household, or at least, my mother was like "anything a man can do, so can a woman and maybe better", you know very 70's women's lib thing and we are feminist, my mother, sister and I (even my dad and brother aren't clueless) and still...
Still.