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Aug. 10th, 2010 09:40 am
[personal profile] rm
  • I did not wake up with any bizarreness in the middle of the night last night. I also had rice with terriyaki sauce for dinner, which Patty had to make because I have not yet mastered rice, because anything else seemed too challenging. On the other hand, now I am cured.

  • Yay, thing that was fucked up with new lease is now unfucked up. Although management company person on speaker phone, with music playing, filing your nails (yes, I could hear the emery board), you completely suck.

  • There was also an incident this morning involving city inspectors and a caulking gun.

  • Stanley Fish on plagiarism. It is, of course, Stanley Fish, which is to say, argue amongst yourselves.

  • The Ebell Club, a woman's social club in Los Angeles was founded at the end of the 19th century to provide a substitute for university education to women who were usually denied such opportunities because of school policies and family financial priorities. Keeping the club going in a time of broader opportunities, however, is a challenge.

  • Diagnosing appendicitis.

  • Fed up flight attendant makes one hell of an exit. Who wants to bet his story gets optioned for a movie deal?

  • Oyster battle: they can help clean polluted waters, but gov't agencies worry that means tainted seafood will reach consumers.

  • In the weirdest, least comprehensible event in the saga of the downtown Islamic cultural center is the proposal by an anti-gay media personality of opening a gay bar catering to Muslims next to it.

  • Meanwhile, the MTA has approved this really offensive ad with images of the planes flying into the WTC that opposes said Islamic cultural center.

  • Everything I hear about Torchwood S4 is making me so excited. Yesterday's big news, at least in my book, is that it will be taking place 2 years after the events of CoE. We're not sure if that means Ianto and Steven's deaths, or when Jack takes off from earth six months later. But it's a really compelling amount of time to me either way, in terms of where Jack's head is going to be, and is really a random piece of info I've felt those of us who want to be writing speculative S4 fic really, really need. I am all over this detail. ALL OVER IT.

  • Last night on Buffy: It's the apocalypse sex episode! Hey, own your tropes. Also, jeez, how is Spike the only grownup around? And really, King ARthur? The sword in the stone, really? What's most ridiculous is the degree to which it works, at least in the moment of watching.

  • Tonight, White Collar and Covert Affairs.
  • Date: 2010-08-10 02:46 pm (UTC)
    azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
    From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
    Knowing the number of people that I do who still flinch from crosses, I recognize that when one's entire experience with a religion/symbol thereof is a bad one, that exposure to it after that can be triggery. But it is possible, and even likely, that people would have other exposure to a religion/its symbols in a context that's at least neutral, and not everyone who has PTSD associated with that incident will have religious symbols as a trigger.

    Whereas the image of the planes flying into the WTC is inherently triggery.

    Date: 2010-08-10 02:58 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com
    That's tricky territory, because what is a trigger to a person is as unique as the person in question. It's not so easy to dismiss what is a trigger to a person based on an external point of view. What may be a trigger to one person could be a common neutral object/symbol to another. There are people I know of who are triggered to 9/11 flashbacks by the smell of burning buildings, who can not even think of flying anymore. Just last month in a hotel room in Las Vegas with a wide panoramic view of the city, including the airport , a friend of mine commented that he felt a little scared watching the planes turning and banking thinking that one might head towards the hotel.

    Personally, I'm far more afraid of the crucifix than I am of the crescent moon. That has more to do with my personal experience with the associated religion, and I understand how some people can stare at a crucifix and find faith , support and hope - but it just inspires fear in me.

    Date: 2010-08-10 03:12 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] sykii.livejournal.com
    So triggers are personal and unique, and therefore it makes sense to oppose the building of something that would provide a net benefit to the city and communities within it based on the potential for triggering because ..?

    Date: 2010-08-10 03:26 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com
    My point on triggers was specific to the ad , in that within the ad both symbols have the potential to be triggery - the airplane flying into the building and the building with the crescent moon and star. I have to say that in my opinion the ad is in poor taste , and potentially triggery for both reasons - not just for the plane flying into the building.

    This is completely separate from the argument as to if the building should be built or not.

    Stepping out a bit, in my opinion I agree that the building does offer a net benefit to the city and communities, however I think the location is questionable. This should not be used to paint me ( incorrectly ) as a Islamiphobe , I just feel that it's not an appropriate location based on the incident that happened there. I accept that people will disagree with me, but I will strongly object to being painted as an Islamiphobe / racist because of that opinion. My opinion is based on the incident, and not the reasoning behind the people who took the action.

    I also understand that true Islamiphobes and racists would object to the building being built anywhere in the city - but that is not my point of view nor do I endorse it. As I pointed out, I used to live next to a Mosque and educational center. I interfaced with the people walking past my door to the Mosque , and even sampled some of the baked goods that they sold on the sidewalk on certain days. Never had a problem.

    Date: 2010-08-10 03:28 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] sykii.livejournal.com
    I assure you that my opinion of your character is based on more than a single statement on a single issue.

    Date: 2010-08-10 03:33 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com
    I have no fear of your point of view of me. We have managed to agree to disagree on many topics over the years, and still have room for each other in our lives - and I am thankful for that daily.

    I was clarifying more for readers who do not know me as well. As RM has pointed out before, there are people here who do not know me well, and are not mind readers.

    Date: 2010-08-11 12:56 am (UTC)
    cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (Default)
    From: [personal profile] cleverthylacine
    Many people have unusual/uncommon triggers which are hard to avoid because they are things that are neutral or even positive to most people and are therefore found all over the place, such as crosses and popular songs and smells. I am deeply, personally aware of this, although I decline to name my personal triggers in a public post.

    However, an image such as that of planes flying into the WTC is neither an unusual nor an uncommon trigger. We know there are large numbers of people who do find it triggery. Unlike a cross or a crescent moon (which are symbols that have other meanings--the crescent moon is found on Eastern Star medallions, Wiccan jewellery, Procter and Gamble products and outhouses), it is also a very specific triggery image that can easily be avoided. People who are triggered by crosses and crescents have bigger problems than where the mosque lives. People who are triggered by the image of planes flying into the WTC can usually avoid it...unless, you know, some asshole puts it up in the bus.

    Date: 2010-08-11 01:18 am (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com
    Entirely with you on this. My thought was that the crescent moon / star was a less common trigger, but for those it effects just as bad as the plane for them.

    Asshole putting it on a bus is dead on. There are worse things out there, but few that will get such publicity / public showing.

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