To recap, we experienced the following mishaps:
- trouble getting car to airport.
- car to airport getting pulled over by cops.
- confusion about cash or credit at airport that had me running to cash machine.
- in chaos, tipped driver $10 past what as already generous
- discovered we were at the wrong terminal.
- METRA - late, weird and creepy more than once.
- Left directions to Oriental Institute in hotel room.
- Everything, more or less, about the trip to the Oriental Institute Museum other than the museum itself.
- I got glutened at PF Changs.
- Cab company decided to fuck us over royally the one afternoon we spent in Naperville's downtown and we had to call the hotel shuttle to beg them to come get us.
- Flight home canceled.
- New flight delayed.
It's a good thing Patty and I like each other. A lot. Man! Oh yeah, and we bought lots of cool stuff at Penzey Spices.
I can't stop thinking about this. Does anyone know more about it? I am haunted by this idea that people were sent up before the technology was ready, not because it just hadn't been tested well enough, but because those on the ground absolutely knew they would die and wanted to see how and how long it would take.
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Date: 2010-08-23 09:13 pm (UTC)The whole discourse is frightening frankly.
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Date: 2010-08-23 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-23 09:33 pm (UTC)There's a whole weird conspiracy theory crowd round radio transmissions of the time. I've seen this referenced more than once recently. I'll try to figure out where it was I saw them.
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Date: 2010-08-23 09:43 pm (UTC)The plan is this: get off work, shower, load the car, drive her over to the dorm, help her unload, hug her, wave at her room-mate and drive home.
Then again, she's only 20 miles away.
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Date: 2010-08-23 09:48 pm (UTC)Likewise. I think I can attribute some of it to my own secondary-and-high-school experience, in that, though I was at a fairly posh private school, its catchment area included a *lot* of various South Asian communities, and it was pretty much down the road from the main Muslim neighborhood. The only reason our RE class never visited the local place of worship was that the teachers never quite got the logistics of a class field trip figured out.
I did see the beginning of the NYT article on the Green Book below the fold on the front page: I shall have to give it more thought as it's possibly relevant to something I'm trying to write.
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:01 pm (UTC)It's considered 'common knowledge' in the space biz that the Soviets went through a lot of cosmonauts. The people who are in the best position to tell you how much of what you see on the website you linked to aren't talking, but I'd hazard that if you were to ask them at a water cooler they'd allow as some of that stuff really happened.
If I had any current contacts at NPO Energia I'd ask, but I suspect they wouldn't really know any more than I do.
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:11 pm (UTC)Sheesh.
Oh, and I was completely disinterested in any of the Welcome Freshmen orientation nonsense. I knew from pretty much the get-go that I couldn't stand anyone on my hall, and that something had gone wrong and that I was supposed to be in interest housing across campus*.
Bah.
*This is actually true. A few months later, the dunderhead in charge of membership said he'd found my application fallen behind a desk, and that I would have been an obvious shoo-in for the floor. I'm still angry at that because my freshman year sucked a lot, mostly to do with my crappy living situation.
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:13 pm (UTC)Alas.
But that sucks.
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Date: 2010-08-23 11:07 pm (UTC)(Which college, if I may ask? So was mine...)
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:46 pm (UTC)*headdesk*
As a former partner of an American serviceman (enlisted), if the other members of my FRG group responded to that survey, the results would range from "I'm not homophobic, but do they have to be so public about it?" to "BURN IN HELL YOU SINNING SINNERS".
And the missing cosmonaut thing is creepy. And fascinating.
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Date: 2010-08-23 10:51 pm (UTC)Anyways, as a parent of an 11 year old, I can totally understand how today's parents find it hard to just drop their kid off at college and leave. First there's the 18+ years of conditioning that dropping your kid off, anywhere, and just leaving them makes you a Bad Parent. You have to make certain that they make it in the building safely and that you're there for them if anything should go wrong, because if you aren't you're neglectful and deserve CPS come and take your kids away.
Then there's the idea that most of these kids heading off to college were Truly Wanted kids. Not a delightful "oops", 1960s love child, like me! ;-p With birth control easily available for the socio-economic classes that regularly send their kids to sleep away college, most of the kids going these days were planned. And a significant subset are even kids that parents went to great lengths to conceive/adopt. Letting go someone that wanted is hard.
I hope that when we make this trip in 7 years (eep! I hope we'll be able to afford sleep away school!), we'll be able to unload stuff at the dorm, make a trip to the Megamart for those things we forgot, and then say "bye" and leave. And only call once that weekend. ;-p
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:15 am (UTC)I plan to emulate this example with my own offspring, if possible. But I might help them pack.
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:05 am (UTC)Did anyone else think "Wow, AMAZING potential for a Torchwood story there." Come on, you just KNOW that Jack was involved in it somehow...
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:18 am (UTC)Honestly, I wish there were openly gay families here. With luck, they'd be more liberal about other things. I hate that my kids get teased for our family supporting Obama, that certain aspects of our lives have to be kept under wraps and that I'm a gossip source for daring to be seen in public in my wheelchair (us gimps are supposed to have enough shame to stay hidden away from public view). I'd love to have people I could actually talk to, without feeling like I'm the last human wife left in Stepford.
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:24 am (UTC)On a related note, Numbers Stations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station), especially UVB-76 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76) which has been active since 1982, despite the collapse of the USSR. I don't know what it is about it, but it weirds me out in a great, "This will be great in a story" sort of way...
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:26 am (UTC)Upon an entire afternoon's review (cough), I don't think the Soviets sent up anyone knowing definitively that they would die. Dogs, yes. People, no. I do believe that they rushed things and engaged in creative denial about the risks --Komarov's flight (and fate) seems like a good example of this.
That "Ludmilla" recording, though. Wow. (But: how did she come to be called that?)
There are definitely stories in here.
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Date: 2010-08-24 02:42 am (UTC)I also remember my roommate's mother, who had unpacked her daughter down to the last shirt, who was silently but yet very loudly disapproving of me and my disorganized disaster on the other side of the room. I turned Soul Asylum on and bounced thoughtfully on my bed in my ragged cutoffs, and later, when I could actually find my things and my roommate couldn't, I may have smirked indelicately to myself.
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Date: 2010-08-24 03:38 am (UTC)On the Park51 thing: I am extremely worried and upset about this backlash and the discourse surrounding it. I've gone from "Someone is wrong on the internet" to "someone is LYING on the internet...and in the news media!" and I cannot, cannot pull myself away from reading the lies and the twisted words, and wondering what their purposes are and what their effects will be. Maybe my response is also mostly due to personal factors and not only from my sense of justice. But I feel like your upset and frightened reactions are right on target for someone who's paying attention to this (not that you need me to legitimize them, anyway).
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Date: 2010-08-24 12:30 pm (UTC)"Brian Fishman, a counterterrorism research fellow at the New America Foundation...[has] been tracking Awlaki for years and is concerned that the latest controversy over the Islamic center will end up making Awlaki look prescient.
"Over the past nine to 12 months, Anwar al-Awlaki has tried to promote this notion that the West, and particularly the United States, will turn on its Muslim citizens," Fishman said. "And some of the anti-Islamic tone that has been going around the country in connection with the mosque debate feeds into this notion that people like Anwar al-Awlaki can take advantage of.""
Awesome. Two different groups of extremist, intolerant people to worry about over this.