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I should probably be a lot more upset by this than I am. Anyone who has any thoughts on what the fuck is up with this, feel free.



Everyone told her she should be a whore. Because that's what women did then if they needed to make money. She even went to two fortune tellers, and they both tolder her to be a whore to, of course, they were paid by the madam in question, to tell women exactly that, but fortune is just what's supposed to happen anyway.

The house was in a freestanding wood building with the crimson flag with gold lettering on it. She went inside.

One day a friend comes to visit, and she comex out to meet her. She is dressed in a just about the ankle length dress -- white, cotton or linen or some such, with a crimson pannel down the front from top to bottom, with a long gold humag seleton on it, done in the manner of early Celtic drag drawings. She stands with her feet wide, like a man.

"How have you been?" the friend asks.

She hikes her dress up. Her pussy lips are instead four fleshy portions of a baby's head, mishapen like a rotting apple, but clean and ordinary. Her friend says to cut them off.

"We don't do that here," she says.

Later, she comes to visit my house. It's a fine, harmless thing, but it is eons later as we are now in the modern world, and those portions are now shredded tendrils, like a dress that drags on the ground. She is dressed the same, and we know she is coming because she speaks to the cat in the window.

There were also other bits of the dream involving the Iraq war (in which Kat and I were fighting and dealing with guys on our team giving us doom and gloom grief because we had very little ammo because no one saw fit to give us any, and we were all "hey, we _hit_ the stuff we shoot, no worries."), a computer server room heaped up with matresses at odd angles, me pumping up the crowd before the John Stewart show, and a pigeon, flying in circles and dragging an open umbrella in its beak.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orien.livejournal.com
Well, you know, if I were the sort of idiot who replies to my own dreams, I would say, "By golly, (name I refer to you as), you SURE DO HAVE LOTSA ISSUES YOU NEEDSTA WORK OUT!"


I have no advice on the dreams of others; I can interpret my own, but I find nothing when I reach into someone else's. The bit at the end-- free-floating anxiety dreams, at least if they were in my head.

You do have an approach that seems, at best, to be a sort of war toward womanhood, sexuality, sex work, and so on. I can never decide which side of it you are on, and truthfully, it seems to change like a slow tide. Your subconscious fights odd battles for you with it, perhaps.

It seems strangely harmless. Were you horrified, or did you think it ordinary in the dream?

Date: 2004-07-15 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Everything in the dream seemed ordinary, except the dress, and then when she came to my house. I didn't like that. But she also wasn't there to see me.

Also, the pigeon horrified me. But I've a fear of them (mothers in New York tell their children they are poisonous, and I was also told when I was very little that birds inside are a death omen, so that was not good).

Date: 2004-07-15 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lachupacabra.livejournal.com
reading that gave me the creeps
& shivers & made me look over my
shoulder twice cause i felt like
someone was standing behind me.
i especially hate the part with
the pigeon & the umbrella.
:(

Date: 2004-07-16 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schpahky.livejournal.com
In this dream the woman is saying, "Look; I stand like a man, but I'll play your game, and look at what it's doing to me."

There is something here about offering innocence to the male world, dividing the brain in service of sexual ideals, and also about the necessity of displaying it all so that people (men) know exactly what's happening. See what you're doing to my innocence. Destruction is a necessity; constant wear results in tatters, but that does not destroy the woman. You probably already have thought of the red/white contrast in her dress. But that skeleton is what holds the whole thing together - skin is little without bones - and the fact that it is gold bodes well for survival.

Cats are typically sensuality/femininity, and it is a good sign that the woman is talking to the cat in the window. Especially since it's a woman who sold her out in the first place.

Mattresses - again, sexuality, comfort, rest among the right angles of the tech (stereotypically male) world.

You pumping up the John Stewart crowd is just plain excellent.

And a harbinger of illness and doom (as you qualify pigeons in another comment) isn't really going to get very far going in circles with a lot of wind resistance. Also, incidentally, it's going to starve to death if it doesn't stop dragging that thing around in its mouth.

That's my two bits.

Date: 2004-07-17 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
See... the cat in question is my pretty kitty (yeah, my cats have dumb names) and she's the creepy cat everyone thinks has a person stuck inside her (my roommate has nightmares about her), so her being in a dream is usually not a good sign.

Date: 2004-07-19 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schpahky.livejournal.com
So do you think the woman is calling to the person in the cat, or the cat? Does she know about the person? Either way, there is someone stuck inside a soft fluffy seductive independent creature. To whom is the ravaged woman calling? Does she want in or does the person in the cat want out?

Any of the rest of it ring true? Analyzing others' dreams involves a lot of assumptions on my part.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] targetmp.livejournal.com
It make be just fear of failure in your chosen profession.

Typically a male field, not to say that there aren't actresses, just that you see, probably correctly, that to make it is harder for women.

The reasons are pretty standard: typical roles, fewer choices and different expectations for women not only in the business, but also in life.

Mother or Whore (with a heart of gold).

The transition of the pussy lips from baby head parts to shreds is very intriguing. Not only being told to "cut them off," like an abortion, but that they become shreds. Was the baby had, making one a mother, destroying independece, labelling like a dress you now have to wear. Or was it aborted into shreds, worn now like a scarlet letter everyone can see.

There does seem to also be in that a fear of judgement about your sexuality and the choices you make. Can't really explain what I mean beyond that.

I'm not sure if the pidgeon was inside while you warmed up the John Stewart, but a Death Omen while on stage? Death on stage maybe?

There is a lot about being exposed, too. Maybe there is some typical actor fear about being discovered as a fraud. Not that your are, but so many actors have felt like frauds, etc, etc

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