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Massive number of links on my friends list this morning on voter fraud, and the fact that pretty much 3% of votes in every presidential election are uncountable for any given reason.

This is bad. Really really bad. And if the story gains momentum and makes it to the mainstream press, I can't even imagine.... I mean this shell shocked misery is one thing, but what if the exit polls weren't wrong?

You know, if our national ATM network works, why the hell can't we figure out how to have every vote counted, accurately and fairly?

I'll put the list of links together tonight, but here's this for now: http://www.livejournal.com/users/womzilla/102943.html?#cutid1

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[ali-highland.livejournal.com]

There is one precinct in Ohio where the states own reports lists 638 votes cast, 260 for Kerry and 4,200 for Bush, the totals for congressional candidates in that precinct match the 638 total or thereabouts.

It is either a typo or very very scary.

I am very mistrustful of the electronic voting machines, the company is not very good at security and the fact that discrepancies have been found in a lot of less important elections using them is starting to bother me. In other countries that use the same machines from the same suppliers they also print off a paper confirmation ballot that is then put in the ballot box, the electronic count is used but if there are questions the paper ballots are recounted.

This is what was advised in Fla and Ohio but was not done. Don't know why not. As it is blackboxvoting.org are requesting copies of all system, voting and audit logs from the machines under the freedom of information act. But this could take us to christmas to figure out.

[schmidtybooger.livejournal.com]

Holy crap.

Now that you mention it ...

[delchi.livejournal.com]

You know, if our national ATM network works, why the hell can't we figure out how to have every vote counted, accurately and fairly?


From a geek point of view, that would be an interesting network to use to pass electronic vote information. Not the 1st tier though - as most ATMs now report in via phone lines, but between the central reporting areas and the banks. Hmm... That could be interesting.

[sethg]

I believe that the Republicans would have won even if they hadn't tried to cheat--they were even better at turning out their base than we were at turnout out ours--but the breadth and intensity of Republican dirty tricks really needs to be publicized, and I have zero confidence in the mainstream press doing so. More thoughts here.

[random-goblin.livejournal.com]

You know, if our national ATM network works, why the hell can't we figure out how to have every vote counted, accurately and fairly?

sadly almost anyone with a good understanding of the problems involved in electronic voting has said.. don't do it, use paper and pencil instead it's more accountable.

a typical informed review of diebold's stuff here (http://avirubin.com/vote/response.html), the main media of course gloss over these things as too tricky for people to understand (quite possibly including the journalists) and so it has all become a case of "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

at best the e-voting is just poorly implemented, at worst... well bush always said it would be easier being a dictator.

[lllvis.livejournal.com]

"You know, if our national ATM network works, why the hell can't we figure out how to have every vote counted, accurately and fairly?"


A-MEN. We have Coke machines that are smarter and easier to figure out that our ballot process. But then I've also seen a few people who couldn't figure out a Coke machine, too...but I doubt it would hit the 3% mark!

[heron61.livejournal.com]

Also, most of Ohio uses the same ballots that were used in Florida in 2000, punch card ballots with the infamous hanging chad problem. I'm growing increasingly certain that this election was a lie.