rm ([personal profile] rm) wrote2003-06-23 04:33 pm

harry potter

No, I've not finished it yet, I'm just unable to contain myself on a variety of subjects.



I feel so smug.

Because yes, while the book provides material for the Lily/Severus theory, it's not cannon, thank god.

Nor has he been revealed to be a vampire.

And I love that he has some weird expertise in a subject that isn't even taught at Hogwarts. Quel surprise.

Now, as to the "Snape's Worst Memory" chapter....

At first, I was like "fuck you! that can't no way be his worst memory. FUCK YOU!"

And then I came to several realizations.

The first, is that Harry doesn't view the complete memory, and is in fact interrupted by Snape just as it's about to get _really_ ugly. Rowling tends to be pretty deliberate about the scenes and sentences she doesn't finish, and I really think this is supposed to make us think that whatever else happened that day was definitely more fucked up after the girls cleared out.

Second, Snape is mentioned repeatedly as removing several strands of memory -- so what are the other two? My bets? The day he joined the Death Eaters and the day he went begging to Dumbledore.

Third, the jar of cockroaches that explodes over Harry's head? Perhaps I've read too much fanfiction (no, correct that, I know I have), but my first though wasn't that Snape was chucking the jar at him, but that it was a bad moment of uncontrolled wandless magic on his part.

And finally, JKR is so fucking with the fandom. I'm sorry, but she has to have read some of this shit. Because you can't tell me the woman wasn't chuckling with mad and spiteful glee as she wrote "Harry's heart began to pump very fast indeed. Defense against external penetration?"

[identity profile] shakespearessis.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Snape/Harry is pretty much the most canonically supported Snape or Harry pairing out there, and that's mighty scary. o_O

But still cool. Snerk.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! I was just _stunned_. In fact that whole section mapped so closely to some of the stories I've read I was flabbergasted.

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[identity profile] shakespearessis.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Really. I was all "okay, JKR can't really be expecting them to go off and shag after this... ... ... can she?" Astonishing.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I was vastly amused how it was so clear the desk was always between them. Like -- what a weird detail to harp on.

And the intricacies of whatever was going on with the marauders -- my god.

The whole bloody series makes me so damn glad I'm not a boy.

[identity profile] ex-mijra932.livejournal.com 2003-06-28 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I second this entire conversation? Thanks.

She really almost made me want to write fic--real, extensive fic--from those Harry/Snape scenes. Almost.

What fascinates me is that her Snape is quick, cruel, sharp, and intellectual in a very slightly different mode than the fandom usually casts him. His phrasing, his expressions, gestures... it's almost like reading someone else. Almost.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2003-06-28 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I thin the Occulmency thing brought him much closer into fandom Snape, but I think hers is reflexively cruel, while fandom Snape tends to savour being a bastard more.

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[identity profile] ex-mijra932.livejournal.com 2003-06-28 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, agreed.

[identity profile] meirion.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
she has read some of the fandom. apparently she admitted as such in an interview with jeremy paxman. [livejournal.com profile] epicyclical quoted the bit of that interview in zir journal last week.

-m-

[identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Embarassed to admit, on the way home from a rather long drive this weekend, and listening to an old Falco CD, you can quite easily substitute ' Harry Potter ' for Amadeus. The rest is an exercise that I leave to your well capable mind.

h.h.h.h.h.Hogwarts..... Hogwarts....

* hiding in embarassment *

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[identity profile] elionwyr.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst memory thing moved me pretty strongly.
And..yeah. I was thinking that she must have at least dabbled in fanfic reading.

(I have little of substance to add - just finished the book, am still thinking about it..)

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
What struck me is that I've never thought of him as small, it never occured to me, with the body language we get in the film. And the various images of him as a small child, trying to be smaller struck me the most strongly I think.
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[identity profile] elionwyr.livejournal.com 2003-06-23 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod*
I was pleasantly shocked to see his past and character being more explored.
..I can't really articulate it right now. :/
And to see both James and Harry as being...not quite perfect...I may have to reread the novel really darn soon.
(Though I need to go reread book 4 again, as it seems to me right now that OotP is very different from the previous novels, and that might just be distance talking.)