[personal profile] rm
Apparently LJ has decided not to communicae with LJ users because that would reward bad behavior.

I think that's the "no, really, fuck off and stop using our site" message we were waiting for.

http://news.livejournal.com/106909.html?thread=70316701#t70316701

Aside from outraged, I'm really quite unutterably sad.
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Date: 2008-03-19 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coridan.livejournal.com
How are other places that use the LJ software, like Greatestjournal, offering themselves as alternatives?

I think that we may start want to consider mounting a campaign to move the communities we love off of LJ and onto a service that is friendlier.

CB

Date: 2008-03-19 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
There's pretty much only insanejournal right now. Friends of mine are working on a way to use OpenID to allow locking (or not) on WordPress and other platforms. Also, [livejournal.com profile] shadesong is proposing starting Elsejournal if she can get support.

Date: 2008-03-19 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
I love the immediate framing of anyone who doesn't toe the party line as troublemakers, LJ-haters, blackmailers, DESTROYERS... that's classic.

Date: 2008-03-19 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrane.livejournal.com
GJ is dead. InsaneJournal is your friend. ^_^ The guy who runs it is very nice and welcomes fandom et al with open arms.

Date: 2008-03-19 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
I wish I could read the rest of the article. Has anyone yet posted a translation?

Date: 2008-03-19 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] tsarina is working on one.

Date: 2008-03-19 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apel.livejournal.com
That quote is such a great example of siege mentality. I wonder if the rest of the interview is in the same vein. Please post a link if you find a translation of the whole thing.

LJ could be great if it weren't for the people who run it.

Date: 2008-03-19 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tantra-cat.livejournal.com
Are you going to leave? What an awful dilemma...

I will feel like one of the "good germans" if I stay...

Date: 2008-03-19 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I have no idea.

Certainly, I can't give these folks another cent. But LJ works like shit if you're not a paid user and I don't want ads on my journal.

IJ is the closest thing in tmers of features I like, but it doesn't have the critical mass for networking.

I have no idea what to do, and figure I have a month to figure it out (when my paid account expires).

Date: 2008-03-19 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nex0s.livejournal.com
I bought a permanent account just before the sale.

I wish I hadn't :(

N.

Date: 2008-03-19 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nickelchief.livejournal.com
Even forgiving the vagaries of the babelfish translation, this guy sounds paranoid and tone-deaf and absolutely wrong for the job.

Date: 2008-03-19 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmjwell.livejournal.com
I'm here through at least 2010 because I bought a perm account and 2010 is when I get my value return for investing $150 in these guys.

I'll probably stay because me --and all perm accounts-- will be a boil on their butt. No ad revenues, no additional subscription monies.

Date: 2008-03-19 01:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-19 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
I'm about half-way through it, and Nosik is very dismissive and verges on insulting.

Date: 2008-03-19 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
What's et al's literal translation? And what's it's translation into "usage in 'modern' English"?

I'm a word-o-phile (word-a-phile? I don't know the "real" latin/greek/whatever term for it :P), I plan on eventually finding out what "eg" means.

I've already learned that "ie" is Latin for some thing, and what it *really* means is "that is" or "thus so." At least, that's what it means if I remember correctly (which is always questionable...).

Date: 2008-03-19 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
< really stupid American moment >
Are you the Miep Gies that helped hide Anne Frank? :O Or related to her, perhaps?
< /really stupid American moment >

Or (more likely), are you just some person from Holland that happens to have the same name, or is named after Miep Gies?

Date: 2008-03-19 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
e.g., means "exempli gratia", english would be "for example" but techincally it means "good example"

i.e., means "id est" which means "that is".

et al means et alii which means "and others"

Date: 2008-03-19 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
Thanks! :D

What's is etc. stand for then? I'm guessing it's another Latin word, since I can't seem to find "excetra" or "exetra" in the "good" dictionary (ie: www.dictionary.com (http://dictionary.com))

Date: 2008-03-19 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
et cetera is "and the rest" more or less. Used to list things in the same class as the initial item(s).

Date: 2008-03-19 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
I personally like Wordpress, but that might be missing the sense of community that I assume you're looking for.

I know that I like Vox, but that's run by 6A, so I'm not sure how eager you would be to trade in one evil for another. Hell, I'm not even sure how evil 6A is on Vox. All I know is that I like it because of how easily it'll tie into Amazon and Flickr. I know they also do tie ins to photobucket and other sites, but I'm not sure what they are, since I don't use them :/

For me, LJ's software is too old. The only thing that really draws me to LJ is it's community (the people) and the community features (friends list, actual communities, feeds that can be added to friends lists and commented on among users, the fact that it's an actual community and I can select who can read an entry of mine, etc.).

I like the icons, but they're not a huge thing for me. The scrapbook feature is insanely lame when compared to things like flickr and zooomr (http://zooomr.com). The layouts are hell. I want more control over how things are laid out at my journal, without having to memorize 5 different languages to do so, the way LJ currently runs (you have to search the communities to get help customizing each individual "layout" thing. That's hell. I want to be able to click 4 buttons and be done. Or, if I feel like a challenge, I'd like to be able to enter HTML and be done).

All in all, LJ is looking to me like the old greenscreen Apple computers -- outdated. I want something LJ-like, but with more modern software. Vox appears to be it, at the moment. If anyone knows of any Vox-Knockoffs, please do tell. I'd love to try them out =)

Note: Did not link to flickr/Vox because I figure they're uberly popular and you already know their URLs. If you'd like, I can reply with their links.

Date: 2008-03-19 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
How did you ever learn these things? Are these things that got cut from the curriculum by the time I went to school, or did you major in writing? Or are you just another word-o-phile type who collects different words and their meanings?

Date: 2008-03-19 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Latin was a required course at Miss Hewitt's, although I probably learned them in English or Rhetoric a few years before I started Latin (6th grade).

By and large though, yes, these are things I generally find that Americans under 30 don't know except from context unless they went to a private school or a Catholic school (where Latin iand English sentence diagraming is often still in the curriculum).
Edited Date: 2008-03-19 03:00 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-19 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithinkitisayit.livejournal.com
I was taught in 8th grade how to "draw" a sentence (is that what you mean by digram?). I don't know how to anymore, due to lack of use.

I'm currently interested in improving my grammar and spelling, since I feel they're a rather vital part of our culture that's currently being lost. I'm also rather OCD about other people using the wrong homonym in their fanfiction (would it kill them to take 2 minutes to look up the word in a dictionary, to figure out if they have the right meaning?!). I rant about it a lot to myself, but logically, I know it's mostly people who weren't taught that:
1) homonyms exist
2) Spell Check doesn't catch words that are spelled correctly, even if said word is used incorrectly
3) look up a word in a dictionary if you are not sure of its meaning

Now that Spell Check is around, reading over what you've written is happening less and less. So all the incorrect homonym usages aren't being caught. Instead, they go through the writing, and so other people assume that the writer is using the correct word, when often, the writer isn't.

I admit, I don't look over my work after I'm done writing. That's another reason I want to improve on my spelling/grammar usage (and I probably need a lesson on punctuation, too, but that might fall under grammar). The better I am at spelling and grammar, the less I'll have to look over what I've written. Of course, this illogical logic comes from being a good writer (or good enough writer. I'm not sure which). I've gotten A's and B's on paper's I've written for college courses, but haven't bothered to look over to catch any grammar mistakes (which are what most of my mistakes are).

Of course, college is far different from the real world (said real world rates readability on how many syllables a word has, as opposed to how complex the ideas in a text are).

Date: 2008-03-19 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] john-h-holliday.livejournal.com
I'm building a mirror on Insane Journal - same name. I have a permanent account. It is taking a very long time to move the posts, but I have exactly a year's worth of posts to transfer now.

If you move, or create a mirror, please friend me there.

Date: 2008-03-19 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Absolutely. I am not taking off instantly, because I want to do things right, and I don't have time for that this week. Besides, you are still the one of the people on my friends list I need to find more time to talk to.
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