Dear Torchwood Fandom,

[rm]

Dear Torchwood Fandom,

I am as much about Jack/Ianto as many of the rest of you, BUT, perhaps you have not noticed, these are two really fucked up people in fucked up circumstances with a distinctive disinclination towards monogamy.

So, can we please stop writing fics that involve Jack cooing over how adorable Ianto is? or making him breakfast in bed? Or saying "I love you" every two seconds?

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THOSE GUYS. Even in happy ending fics (which I like), even when they are taking comfort from each other (which is probably how it evolved out of Ianto trying to get Lisa into the Hub) and even when they're in love with each other (which I can totally buy).

Ianto is both weirdly innocent and incredibly fucking devious and generally pretty at sea and FILLED WITH TRAUMA and also tough as nails. And Jack is actually out of his goddamn mind. And immortal (more or less). And a huge slut. And a very manly man. Mostly. And also, FILLED WITH TRAUMA, and I don't mean screaming girl trauma for either of them, okay?

So, please, pelase, please, people, let these characters be into each other on their own terms, not your unimaginative heteronormative romance novel crap.

Also, didn't we learn anything about sickeningly cute and character inappropriate nicknames from the Harry Potter fandom?

Thank you.

Gah. I hate new fandoms.

Comments

[dhae_knight_1]

The one thing that can drive me bonkers in no time flat is the use of the nickname: 'Yan.

WTF? Can we at least try to stick to nicknames that have been used in the actual show at least once? Please?

Yes, I belong to the people who see Jack and Ianto as loving each other. But I don't see them as being perfect. I see them as fucked up and twisted and filled with all sorts of issues - and quite possibly loving each other because of it. And of course, having fun with great sex is a part of them loving each other.

And, please bear in mind, that in my little corner of canon, all their relationship was before the end of season 1 was great sex. I don't think it was a case of love (lust, certainly, though) at first sight, nor do I think Jack was aware that there was romantic love involved when he invited Ianto on a date. I think all of that kinda crept up on him.

But then again, I don't equalize romantic love with feminizing one of the characters and having them call each-other 'baby' and 'snookums' all the time. So... *shrugs*

[rm.livejournal.com]

The Yan thing drives me bugfuck too.

[julygreen.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I have never read Jack/Ianto fanfic for precisely the reasons that you've mentioned. Jack is a more complex character than people give him credit for, and he and Ianto would not (and do not) have a sunshine-and-roses kind of relationship.