[personal profile] rm
Dear Torchwood Fandom,

I am as much about Jack/Ianto as many of the rest of you, BUT, perhaps you have not noticed, these are two really fucked up people in fucked up circumstances with a distinctive disinclination towards monogamy.

So, can we please stop writing fics that involve Jack cooing over how adorable Ianto is? or making him breakfast in bed? Or saying "I love you" every two seconds?

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THOSE GUYS. Even in happy ending fics (which I like), even when they are taking comfort from each other (which is probably how it evolved out of Ianto trying to get Lisa into the Hub) and even when they're in love with each other (which I can totally buy).

Ianto is both weirdly innocent and incredibly fucking devious and generally pretty at sea and FILLED WITH TRAUMA and also tough as nails. And Jack is actually out of his goddamn mind. And immortal (more or less). And a huge slut. And a very manly man. Mostly. And also, FILLED WITH TRAUMA, and I don't mean screaming girl trauma for either of them, okay?

So, please, pelase, please, people, let these characters be into each other on their own terms, not your unimaginative heteronormative romance novel crap.

Also, didn't we learn anything about sickeningly cute and character inappropriate nicknames from the Harry Potter fandom?

Thank you.

Gah. I hate new fandoms.

Date: 2008-04-05 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
*applauds*

Thank you.

Date: 2008-04-05 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
and thank you.

Since I've not watched season 2 yet, but know that Ianto basically flirted (or more) his way into Torchwood via Jack. Do we have any information on whether he and Jack had it out about the Lisa thing during Ianto's suspenion (or later, for that matter, I guess). As I am getting something of a fic bunny myself and it's not the "oh, Jack is worried about Ianto and goes to check on him" variety, it's the "Jack calms down enough to realize he's been had and feels the needs to go over there and ask What the Fuck?" variety.

Date: 2008-04-05 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
I'm woefully behind on season 2, myself. Five eps in and nothing of that sort has come up, yet. Which is a shame, as I want it to. Still, there's seven more eps to go...

Date: 2008-04-05 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Okay, I need to find this out, because this is sort of forming in my head (I'm realizing I totally know how to write Jack's voice when he's pissed off, but probably don't have a handle on the characters otherwise -- perhaps because they don't have a handle on themselves).

Date: 2008-04-07 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marypseud.livejournal.com
Just go ahead and write it. You could always label it AU.

(sorry to butt in - here via [livejournal.com profile] metafandom)

Date: 2008-04-06 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marcmagus
I have no memory of their having done so. I wasn't watching for it, but I like to think I'd remember it if they had. (Just checked with K, who also doesn't think they did.)

I think that got conveniently forgotten like so many other plot elements.

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