[personal profile] rm
Take.

Use.

Suggest new verbiage (but wow, that space is tiny).





I've never been so grateful to have a short username.

Date: 2008-05-09 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheleonelonly.livejournal.com
Of course darling

Date: 2008-05-09 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insomnia.livejournal.com
What we need, perhaps, is an animated one that goes between various issues.

Date: 2008-05-09 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I totally agree. It would also let us do ones where the issue takes up more space (I hit a snag on disability issues). That, unfortunately, is beyond my technical skills.

Date: 2008-05-09 12:21 pm (UTC)
ext_4696: (Default)
From: [identity profile] elionwyr.livejournal.com
http://www.instructables.com/id/Create-an-animated-Avatar/ ?

(I've not had a chance to play with this yet.)

Date: 2008-05-09 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
I will take and use the diversity one, as it's the closest to my concerns at the moment :)

Date: 2008-05-09 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yup, as you can see in comments, I need someone to help me with animation to do a "disability issues" one as I can't make it fit in a readable size! The "diversity" one came out of that problem.

Date: 2008-05-09 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
Oh my god. When they work out that one, I'll make that my default until elections are over!

Date: 2008-05-09 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
I made this one. It's a little quieter. Hopefully it is not lame.

Date: 2008-05-09 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Awesome, love it. My eyes thank you. May I link in separate post?

Date: 2008-05-09 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
In the world where I get a pony, there's a version of your icon with the text of the bright red icon. I like the quieter style, and I like the use of the user-icon (reminding people that she is a user, not just a pair of initials). I would also like to put some platform information on it, probably substituting for the words "Advisory Board." (I would do this myself, but I suck at image programs.)

I'd really like a slow animation (not flickery perhaps a frame a second), going through the major platform points.

By the way, rm, one of the things that attracted me most about your platform was the argument that allowing free speech lowers LJ's liability, and is therefore not just, "The fans have rights, dude!" I'm not sure how to put it into a two word slogan, but something about common sense, perhaps? Clear communication is another one that I didn't see listed in the icons that was a major selling point for me.

Wish in one hand...

Date: 2008-05-09 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
I can do more with Paint than I thought.





The font I used for the "rm" was Arial Bold. The bit at the bottom was 10pt bold Segoe UI, but could be anything of that general feel. Can someone make an animation? That part cannot be done in Paint, though people are welcome, if they like my mod, to slap any sensible slogan on it.

My preferred set of animated slogans (presuming you agree with these, rm):
diversity / free speech / usability / common sense / user rights / clear communication / free accounts / open source / strong communities / disability issues

Re: Wish in one hand...

Date: 2008-05-09 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
works for me. and thank you!

I plan to play with more stuff tonight, but I may wind up writing as opposed to designing. I see a lot of people entering the race with the argument that they are mainstream and that people with some of the concerns I raise and affiliations I have are not. So I think something needs to be said about unity and about what mainstream really is and isn't.

Re: Wish in one hand...

Date: 2008-05-09 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
I definitely want to start flying that flag for you, as soon as you give me the clever words to do it with. I think it is important, and I think your bridge between the professional and fannish world is crucial. I'm just not sure how to put it in a buzzword. It's one of the reasons I added "strong communities" - one of the ways LJ has shaken the foundations is a sense that there are certain core communities they would rather not have.

Hmm. "Better business" just popped into my head. I'm not sure if it works or not, but, as I said above, I really liked your articulate arguments for making LJ's business stronger by setting sensible policies. "Enforceable policies"? Hmm. In my design, it's easier to make a long second word than first word.
Edited Date: 2008-05-09 05:01 pm (UTC)

Once more, with feeling...

Date: 2008-05-09 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
If you prefer a perfectly realistic username thingummy, here's that version.

Image (http://pics.livejournal.com/gement/pic/00006tcq/)
Edited Date: 2008-05-09 04:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-09 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adameros.livejournal.com
You support Freespeech, but your supporters actively delete comments in your [livejournal.com profile] ljunited community.

What is your stance on your campaigners exercising censorship rather than debating the issues?

Date: 2008-05-09 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I strongly believe each community within LJ has the right to establish its own standards for topics and style of discourse, while also supporting the right of users to form the broadest array of communities. The beauty of LJ is that is provides a platform for users to create communities tailored to their needs. I support LJ/SUP not curtailing the use of that platform; that does not mean I think all communities should be obligated to allow posts they find off-topic or inappropriate to their concerns.

Additionally, I did not found that community, nor am I a maintainer of it. I support its vision for LJ and I'm happy to have their endorsement.

My campaign is my campaign. [livejournal.com profile] insomnia's community is [livejournal.com profile] insomnia's community. We're online friends and colleagues, but we do not and cannot control each other's actions in how we conduct ourselves online.

Finally, I was getting a blessed bit of sleep when whatever occurred and occurred, so my details on it are fairly limited, but I do not view it as an LJ policy issue.

Date: 2008-05-09 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adameros.livejournal.com
So, in other words, you do not in fact believe in freedom of speech, but rather the conditional allowance of speech, in that restrictions on speech and censorship are perfectly acceptable based on the venue?

Date: 2008-05-09 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I believe in LJ as a platform for users to create communities that serve their needs and interests. Just as I would not be welcome if I barged into an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting because I decided I wanted that venue to instead be a forum for my interest in private aircraft, equestrianism or the state of the stock market, I believe each community on LJ has the right to set its own standards. I do not, however, believe that LJ/SUP should be dictating those standards to the users.

If you choose to willfully misinterpret this statement, that is beyond my control.
Edited Date: 2008-05-09 09:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-09 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adameros.livejournal.com
Since you are going to IRL analogies...

How is that different from when Bush was running for office last time, and the secret service would not allow people in the rallies wearing anti-war t-shirts, and relegating protesters, or even people they thought might be protesters to small barricaded areas labeled "free speech zones"?

You claim to be for free speech, but it seems to be only if it is speech you agree with.

Which seems to coincide nicely with what your supporters were doing in [livejournal.com profile] ljunity.

Date: 2008-05-09 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
The critical right to protest of public political speech which was heinously denied in the Bush you mention and the discourteous disruption of private community speech as in the hypothetical example I provided are, in fact, two different things.

Once again, I am not a moderator of [livejournal.com profile] ljunity and was not online at the time of whatever transpired there.

I'm sorry you fail to see the nuance in these situations, but I don't think there's anything I can do to further address this issue with you.

Date: 2008-05-09 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adameros.livejournal.com
This is an election. Your supporters were attacking [livejournal.com profile] jameth. Jame's supports came to his defense, you supporters exercised censorship, and now you say you can not control them, much like (again an election reference) Bush said he had no control over the Swift Boa Veterans, but he also (much like you) refused to denounce their tactics.

I think we are seeing exactly why you should NOT be elected. You are failing to take a leadership role. You claim to be for free speech, and then throw in exceptions. You are more than willing to let your supporters attack your opponents, and willing to stand by when your follower silence dissent. That is not what live journal needs. It is what it needs to be protected from.

(frozen)

Date: 2008-05-09 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I do not control my supporters; they are free individuals. [livejournal.com profile] jameth presumably, also does not control his.

I am not throwing in exceptions; rather, I have clearly have a different view of the uses and purposes of the LJ platform than you do. These are the honest disagreements of the electoral process. I am glad you have found a candidate that suits yours and that you are participating. But since we're not going to change each other's minds here, I'm freezing this thread, because I have to believe we both have better things to do in this election and in life than engage in what is threatening to become an endless pursuit of the last word.
Edited Date: 2008-05-09 10:35 pm (UTC)

pursuit of the last word.

Date: 2008-05-10 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johmas.livejournal.com
Looks like you got what you wanted.

Date: 2008-05-10 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pete-diddy.livejournal.com
Hello, Pete-Diddy of ElJzeera news..

RM, have you thought of contacting Jameth and calling for a cease-fire till the post-nominations timeframe and hold a debate or two? That should clear up alot of BS about where people stand, etc. I think that if the two of you both call for the said cease-fire, then there's a chance it would work.

I'd rather the wank be in one place, as I am a lazy websurfer, and tracking down all these links and trying to make them fluid is really crazy.

Would you be willing to go the distance and set off the greatest election EVAR?

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