Torchwood, series 2

[rm]

Adrift

I thought this episode was largely boring until all the folks started walking into the meeting for the people with missing persons. That scene was shot amazingly, and you really felt the whole thing dawn in all its terribleness on Gwen. Loved it.

Loved her and Tosh working on it and keeping the secret from Jack.

I think this is the best sense we get that Jack and Ianto are, in fact, in a relationship that has some sort of emotional content. Him doing the whole "I'll talk to him" thing for Gwen and then failing. Him leaving Gwen the GPS info. Jack noting rather calmly that she must have gotten the info ffrom Ianto -- that implies several things -- one is that Ianto is more than the butler or eyecandy or the teaboy. The other is that Jack told Ianto about this whole thing -- maybe as part of work, maybe not, but he trusted Ianto to keep a secret for him, but also knows Ianto's character to such a degree that he's not that surprised (or pissed off) when it doesn't work out that way. Also, how can anyone watch this episode and think Ianto is by nature submissive, at all times, to everyone and especially Jack? Because this is what fandom seems to think and I admit it has its moments.... but really.

Also, Jack hollering for Ianto when Gwen calls him -- was that "we just shagged, I want my coffee"? because I think it was, and it was very funny. So was Jack and Ianto going back into the greenhouse after Gwen walks in on them and Jack disrobing again.

So Jack set this place up for the Rift folks. Is this in the Torchwood budget? Does Torchwood evne have a budget consider Tochwood 3's estrangement from everything? Is the budget whatever money Tosh steals by being a hacker? How did this get paid for? Is this one of those things where Jack's imortality meant money earns interest and he's really a rich madan living in a cave funding charitible causes? Oh, wait, wrong geekery. But seriously, this struck me as a Jack personal project as opposed to a Torchwood project. Thoughts?

Also, speaking of special projects. Ianto apparently has a special project? What's that, shagging Jack? taking care of the pterodactyl? I WANT TO KNOW. Especially if it's something cool.

I liked the lack of happy ending.
I liked that Gwen didn't offer Jack absolution on this one, even though he deserved it. It was messy and human and everyone was dark in this episode and they were right to be.

Comments

[chaos-by-design.livejournal.com]

What I was mainly wondering about the facility myself was that it seemed like it was in such bad shape, and was underground and all. It honestly didn't seem very humane to me in terms of being in basic good repair (though at least the staff seemed alright).

I loved the bits with Ianto giving Gwen the info, not only because of what it implied about his relationship with Jack, but also how it highlighted the lack of rivalry between him and Gwen. Fandom likes to sometimes portray those two as being opposed, but in the actual show, it's not that way at all.

I don't get people thinking of Ianto as being some kind of doormat. Honestly, Ianto's not someone I'd like to fuck with, because I think he'd wind up getting back in a way probably totally sneaky and underhanded. Just because he's quiet and unassuming on the surface is no reason to assume he's spineless. Anything but.

[rm.livejournal.com]

It was the condition of the facility that made me question where the money was coming from. Yes, it's an improvement over the Torchwood vaults, but I suspect Jack's ability to accept tehse peopel as human is probably somewhat impaired. He's shown a blindspot in such regards before. I mean, the way they store the Weevils unsettles me.

[chaos-by-design.livejournal.com]

For some reason the way they keep the weevils never bothered me, I guess because they always seemed purely hostile anyway.

I don't know if Jack doesn't accept them as human; he seemed pretty sympathetic to their condition. But the place was in pretty bad shape. I didn't know what to make of that. Of course, considering TW 3 is cut off from the other Torchwoods, it's possible there are money issues involved.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Also he did say that the place had had a sudden influx, so it's definitely way overcapacity, even moreso than it probably was. But it is strange. and speaks to me of something put together pieceeal and haphazardly and with no money. It's so odd.

I didn't give a shit about teh Weevils until they were all clustered around the glove -- instinct to submit, maybe, but what if they were worshipping? Even minor demons have gods. It's really been bugging me.