sundries: household and fannish
Jul. 13th, 2008 11:10 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
rm- While I did not get as much done as I wanted to yesterday, I got what I did get done better than I expected to. However, it's a cruel world that only has ice water in the pipers after you've made the bathroom sparkle!
- We've reached the point where my dry cleaner knows my name. My dry cleaner knowing my name means I bring in too much dry cleaning. It's like your drug dealer asking you how your kids are. The familiarity of the relationship is a DANGER SIGN. But I own a lot of silk and I love my shirts coming out just perfect, although we do need to have a discussion about more starch.
- Kali and I are working on our next piece following A Strange Fashion.../Dear Captain... (also I owe several people in those threads longer responses to insightful comments -- probably tonight -- I'm look at you![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
demotu) but right now I feel frustrated by it. It is more logistically complex than the other two (more characters) and I can tell that the editing process is going to be much more intensive on this one than the other two. But, I'm hoping it will, in the end, turn out like, for those of you who read our HP work, the garden party in Descensus, which was thought was AWFUL when we were writing it and pulled togther beautifully. Also we've sort of figured out a trajectory for these, and we think it's a seven=ish story arc.
- I need to write some Annie. I love Jack/Ianto but there's something poinsonous in the analyzing it unto splinters way that I write them. It's tiriing to be around. This fandom forces me to take a lot of long walks. Some of you know that I teach in both fannish and non-fannish capacities classes on using acting iprov to improve your writing. This fandom is probably the best fannish example I've had in my own work of myself using that process in an internal way, and because of the sort of performer I am, the only way to get the poison back out after putting it in to get the writing down is go for Very Long Walks.
- Fewer Very Long Walks are necessary when Patty's home, so aside from missing her. Grounding, hello!
- Off to do some work before Bastille Day thing.
- Finally finished watching Doctor Who, series 2 last night. OMG, so mono no aware excellent and now having seen it instead of just having read about it, I get why so many people were disatisified with the end of Series 4. Without discussion spoilers for either, I must take a moment to say that I love love love Doctor Who and Torchwood so much because whatever else is going on in them, they are about endurance. They are about the idea that at some point in our lives the happiest moment of them will have already happened. In the real world, we never know that moment, but DW/TW characters -- at least the human/normal lifespan ones do know when that moment happens, and then have to learn to live and find meaning in the face of that, while the longer-lifed characters have to endurance -- as we do out here in the real world -- the fact that they might never know when that moment is and hold it tight and remember it perfectly. I love that so much of DW/TW is about our weaknesses and enduring in the face of them while also being structured so that we get to identify with what are, effectively, superheroes. For a show that can be so relentlessly, brutally sad, it is also a very sweet thing.
- Have finally discovered where the wank lives in this fandom, and it's actually sort of interesting as it's got so much to do both with fan culture and the boundaries of performers and how everything gets wonky when those boundaries aren't where people have come to expect them to be. It's all the sort of thing I'd prefer to read and not comment on other than to say public life and fatnasy life are by nature complicated and performers get paid to play across them and no matter how much being fannish can also seem like playing acoss the same ideas (because it is), shit is always different when it's your job. I'm actually not even sure what my point is other than, hey, this fandom gives us weird parameters and the only behavior you can really police is your own. HP wank felt funnier and more harmless because it was/is so non-reality based (oh, poor astralplane!Snape got his feelings hurt -- I mean seriously, who gives a shit if fans are being inappropriate at that point? And it's not like it's rational to sit around debating if atralplane!Snape behaved appropriately although I'm sure someone did somewhere).
- Actually, I can sum up the above. Dear Everyone, sometimes boundaries are sexy.
- Righto. Bet I have hot water now.
- We've reached the point where my dry cleaner knows my name. My dry cleaner knowing my name means I bring in too much dry cleaning. It's like your drug dealer asking you how your kids are. The familiarity of the relationship is a DANGER SIGN. But I own a lot of silk and I love my shirts coming out just perfect, although we do need to have a discussion about more starch.
- Kali and I are working on our next piece following A Strange Fashion.../Dear Captain... (also I owe several people in those threads longer responses to insightful comments -- probably tonight -- I'm look at you
demotu) but right now I feel frustrated by it. It is more logistically complex than the other two (more characters) and I can tell that the editing process is going to be much more intensive on this one than the other two. But, I'm hoping it will, in the end, turn out like, for those of you who read our HP work, the garden party in Descensus, which was thought was AWFUL when we were writing it and pulled togther beautifully. Also we've sort of figured out a trajectory for these, and we think it's a seven=ish story arc.- I need to write some Annie. I love Jack/Ianto but there's something poinsonous in the analyzing it unto splinters way that I write them. It's tiriing to be around. This fandom forces me to take a lot of long walks. Some of you know that I teach in both fannish and non-fannish capacities classes on using acting iprov to improve your writing. This fandom is probably the best fannish example I've had in my own work of myself using that process in an internal way, and because of the sort of performer I am, the only way to get the poison back out after putting it in to get the writing down is go for Very Long Walks.
- Fewer Very Long Walks are necessary when Patty's home, so aside from missing her. Grounding, hello!
- Off to do some work before Bastille Day thing.
- Finally finished watching Doctor Who, series 2 last night. OMG, so mono no aware excellent and now having seen it instead of just having read about it, I get why so many people were disatisified with the end of Series 4. Without discussion spoilers for either, I must take a moment to say that I love love love Doctor Who and Torchwood so much because whatever else is going on in them, they are about endurance. They are about the idea that at some point in our lives the happiest moment of them will have already happened. In the real world, we never know that moment, but DW/TW characters -- at least the human/normal lifespan ones do know when that moment happens, and then have to learn to live and find meaning in the face of that, while the longer-lifed characters have to endurance -- as we do out here in the real world -- the fact that they might never know when that moment is and hold it tight and remember it perfectly. I love that so much of DW/TW is about our weaknesses and enduring in the face of them while also being structured so that we get to identify with what are, effectively, superheroes. For a show that can be so relentlessly, brutally sad, it is also a very sweet thing.
- Have finally discovered where the wank lives in this fandom, and it's actually sort of interesting as it's got so much to do both with fan culture and the boundaries of performers and how everything gets wonky when those boundaries aren't where people have come to expect them to be. It's all the sort of thing I'd prefer to read and not comment on other than to say public life and fatnasy life are by nature complicated and performers get paid to play across them and no matter how much being fannish can also seem like playing acoss the same ideas (because it is), shit is always different when it's your job. I'm actually not even sure what my point is other than, hey, this fandom gives us weird parameters and the only behavior you can really police is your own. HP wank felt funnier and more harmless because it was/is so non-reality based (oh, poor astralplane!Snape got his feelings hurt -- I mean seriously, who gives a shit if fans are being inappropriate at that point? And it's not like it's rational to sit around debating if atralplane!Snape behaved appropriately although I'm sure someone did somewhere).
- Actually, I can sum up the above. Dear Everyone, sometimes boundaries are sexy.
- Righto. Bet I have hot water now.
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Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-13 03:55 pm (UTC)-The wank (I don't know what flavor you're talking about, there's a lot of it) is pretty epic. I stay out of it because my appreciation for Tennant is not to the exclusion of Eccleston. All of the companions thus far have kicked ass and took names in their own ways, so again, it seems silly to say that one is inherently "better" than another.
The actor stuff gets really murky because as you've pointed out, Eccleston didn't give a shit. Tennant, many people feel, gives too much of a shit. He's a fanboy getting to play in his heart's wonderland. Some people don't like that, and what it means he brings to the role. Oh, and then there's the Georgia Moffet stuff, which is just...bizarre.
I have a(n unrelated) story for you when I get back to NY about geek fame and lines crossed, etc.
Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-13 03:58 pm (UTC)Anyway as to Series 2 -- I just cried and cried and cried.
Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-13 04:06 pm (UTC)I think Americans (I include myself in this, for all that I'm aware of it) are clueless about the British acting community.
They don't realize it's astonishingly small, and dude, Cardiff.
I worked on a show with an actor who explained to me about the English/London "audition" system. Apparently, if you've gone to acting school and have Equity, it's assumed you can perform any role you're given. Instead of auditions, you're given an interview to see if you'd get along with the director, and generally have the correct sensibility for the role.
I can't decide if I like that better than our system.
Also, Torchwood is this own peculiar...thing. I'm not even sure how to define it other than in the terms of some brutal play with a small cast where you're forced through a crucible into camaraderie.
Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-15 05:56 am (UTC)Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-15 05:57 am (UTC)Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-15 06:11 am (UTC)Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-15 06:12 am (UTC)Re: Your Doctor Who Observations...
Date: 2008-07-15 06:37 am (UTC)Or I'll make you watch him wrestle a kitten.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avF2UDgBqzI
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Date: 2008-07-13 06:02 pm (UTC)So true and well put.
I just finished watching season three disc 4, "Human Nature" and "The Family of Blood" and I _really_ wish I could discuss them with you. Aarrgh.
While I still can't access my email due to some #$%#@ virus I apparently can access LJ which is at least something although porn keeps randomly popping up which never happened before. Stupid computer.
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Date: 2008-07-13 06:10 pm (UTC)lovelife! I meant life goes by, eh?)I'm curious as to where the wank lives. To do more with fan/actor boundries you mean? I'm not quite sure I follow - but I probably haven't read what you're referring to, since I tend not to follow discussions of much anything but writing itself.