fuck this noise

[rm]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Fake_America_located.html

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[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

TRUTH to your subject line.

[kill.livejournal.com]

The thing that gets me is that they absolutely don't understand that they are exactly who they are describing.

Also, I reinforce the recommendations about sending a letter disallowing them from capitalizing on 9/11 for their campaign. They seem to hate New Yorkers just as much as the hijackers did.

[eac.livejournal.com]

I was just gonna point out that John McCain lives in the DC suburbs, for all intents and purpose.

[browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com]

What's California? Chopped liver?

Hey! We're just as elitist as anyone else! So there!

[klwalton.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this! Not only are we elite, we have ELITE WEATHER!!

:)

[sethg]

And what of all us "Massachusetts liberals", still recovering from the tender mercies of Mitt Romney's administration?

[bodlon.livejournal.com]

I...the fuck?

So it's okay to haul 9/11 out of the Tupperware every fifteen seconds, but people in NYC aren't "real Americans" because they're some kind of cultural elite?

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

INORITE.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I don't necessarily like being a poster child for issues I support, although I'm willing to do it and do do it because I'm good at it. But I LOATHE being exploited for stuff I find reprehensible, and that's what's happened every day since 9/11 that my city has been made into a poster child for an agenda I find appalling. None of us consented to this shit.

[maudelynn.livejournal.com]

And spending over 3 times on clothes what the average American makes in a year is just what every down to earth American mom does all the time... You betcha. And forcing women to who are raped to pay for their rape kit is just so fair to them. Ugh she makes my eye twitch

[klwalton.livejournal.com]

Every time that man opens his mouth, he says something incredibly stupid. This is no exception.

And, yes. Fuck that noise.

[placate-me.livejournal.com]

Ugh.

Terrifying. And I think this may just be the next president.

[popfiend.livejournal.com]

*inarticulate murmurings of distaste*

[raaven.livejournal.com]

This would be downright comedic, if they weren't so damned sincere.

[airspaniel.livejournal.com]

At the risk of being very unpopular, I have to say that he didn't call all New Yorkers elitists - he said a lot of elitists live here. And as an outsider, I have to say that's true.

Not everyone who lives here is elitist, but I have had more people try and push their political and social beliefs in my face, tell me I "don't understand" and "I'm not a New Yorker" when I disagree, and dismiss me here than I ever have anywhere else.

There is an attitude that some New Yorkers carry around (and I've seen it in DC, too. And in many other cities at varying concentrations.) that does smack of "I'm better than you." It's a human thing and a social thing, not just a New York thing. And if he called all New Yorkers and residents of DC elitists, then he called it on himself, since I know where his apartment is in the greater DC area.

McCain says enough stupid shit without being vilified for an assumption about a flippant comment he made. Should he have said it? Probably not, but we shouldn't flip out about a perceived insult. Not when there's already plenty to be insulted about.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

He's not saying that people are snobs.
He's saying that they aren't Americans.

[airspaniel.livejournal.com]

No, he's saying that snobs are un-American.

Honestly, the bigger problem is with the bit that 1_mad_squirrel has italicized there. The man does not have any sense of self awareness at all.

They can dictate what they believe to America rather than let Americans decide for themselves.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

This. This is their whole platform. I agree with you here.

What I don't agree with is the idea that being more snobbish than is to one's tastes makes you somehow less than a citizen, which is the whole point of the exercise.

The whole concept of Un-American, is offensive to me.(There is, for example, no conceptual equivalent in Canada, our thinking simply doesn't go down that road.) There is no point in arguing about what criteria to use,in order to disenfranchise ones compatriots, since the very concept is an absurdity. Your fellow citizens are just that, every black hearted one of them.

Of course you are a New Yorker. You live in New York.

[contrarywise]

The shinyshiny brain has given up trying to make sense of this level of doublethink and fuckery. Honestly. It's rapidly stopped being even ironic political theatre and has become insanity and FUD on parade.

icon love!

[1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com]

and please, what does FUD stand for?

Re: icon love!

[contrarywise]

Thanks! The icon comes from Allison Bechdel's brilliant "Dykes to Watch Out For" strip.

FUD = Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt

[natf.livejournal.com]

Icon Love again!
*learns to refresh the page before commenting*

[sethg]

McCain should know from elitists, since he is the son of an admiral, the grandson of an admiral, the husband of an heiress, a (former?) darling of the press and the Georgetown party circuit, and a presidential candidate who has made "I love my country so much that I deserve to rule it" one of the central themes of his campaign.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

At this point, Senator Obama could be a 200 pound bag of sand, and I would still be praying that the Gods send him victory.

[natf.livejournal.com]

This. Yes.

*goes to make an icon for comments like this*

italics mine

[1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com]

MCCAIN: Well, in our nation's capital and New York City. I've seen it. I've lived there. I know the town. I know-- I know what a lot of these elitists are. The ones that she never went to a cocktail party with in Georgetown. I'll be very frank with you. Who think that they can dictate what they believe to America rather than let Americans decide for themselves.

Does the man have no sense of self-awareness?

Also, funny how he and Palin are New York's bestest buddies when the want to invoke 9-11.

Does the man have no sense of self-awareness?

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

No. He doesn't.

[telesilla.livejournal.com]

And yet, Palin has no problem coming to NYC and spending the RNC's money on clothes. Irony much?

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

Hypocrisy, some.