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- Got paid.

- The time-wimey holiday cards of awesome arrived.

- Logistics are being weird.

- There's a lot of stuff going on with my parents right now.

- I need to write about my sucktacular time at fencing back on Wednesday.

- Last night we went with several people to see Michael Arannella and His Dreamland Orchestra at Galopagos. I got to show Patty some of the best views in the city, and the whole thing was scrumptous as ever. Seriously, I think Aranella using his hand to block/modulate the sound from the mouth of his trombone was the filthiest thing I have ever seen.

Anyway, at the end of the night this drunk blond woman stumbles over to us as cries, "Sorry I got here so late," leading me to assume one of us must know her.

She then, after a bit came over to me and got way in my personal space and said, "hi!"

I've no memory for faces, so I said hi and waited for her to say something.

After a bit she praised our outfits, commented on how we all wear glasses and asked if Patty and I were lovers.

"Um, yeah, but, I mean... it's not really the word we use," which is quite true.

The woman insisted it was a perfectly generic phrase and I assured her that it was, but then I remember the seventies and Patty doesn't.

"You weren't alive in the seventies," the corpulent man with her declared.

"I was born in 1972," I assure them.

The drunk woman asks Patty what words she would use.

"Girlfriend," Patty offered.

"I say partner, because that makes me feel sixteen," I joked. I'm good, I think, at being charming to drunks, but I've already seen where this is going.

We learn that the woman and the man are on their third date and have known each other for two weeks. It is their anniversary.

We learn that the woman likes to annoy the man by saying he looks like Chris Matthews. The man and I high five over the utter weirdness of the whole thing.

The man wants to take a photo of our group. Marilynn's been distracting the band with her stockings through the whole show, and it's harmless. We're all used to going out to clubs dressed up often enough, that yes, we pose for pictures.

Marci, thank god, comes back from the fucking coat check.

"Where do you live?" the drunk woman asks me.

"Spanish Harlem."

"Oh, do you want to come home with us?"

"Ah... er... well, we usually go to dinner with everyone at the end of the night," I say, playing stupid.

She backpedals, for half a second, and tries to imply she just meant sharing a cab. But then, she says she's feeling adventurous. We know. She's already tried to pose for a photo with her face positioned by Marilynn's bare thighs.

So we all just walk away.

"What was that?" Marci asks when we get outside.

"Stupid straight people trying to have group sex with us," I say.

"They thought we were all lesbians," Patty adds.

Everyone seems shocked and outraged, and I feel strange. This has happened to me so many times,, and it was so obvious, right from the beginning.

I dwelled on it all evening, wondering why it preoccupied me so.

And I realized that the man thought the woman was being ridiculous and sloppy but he was getting a steak and a blow job anyway and didn't care.

The woman, meanwhile, was completely not sensual or seductive towards any of us and was trying to validate herself through outrageousness I don't think she gave an actual crap about.

Patty and I are partners, not heteroflexible girls who make out for the pleasure of essentially het couples. If you're going to proposition us for group sex, don't be insulting about it.

The drunk woman was probably only a few years older than me and acted like a petulant and boring child. I wonder how she'll feel about that today.

And it surprised me like crazy that no one else had ever run into this sort of thing before, but then I've spent a lot of nights in night clubs over the years.

The whole thing left a strange, sad taste in my mouth in the end. I'm so used to being able to deflect those things with grace and humour and everyone says good night as opposed to needing to walk away in the middle of someone else's crazy. I'm also used to people trying to get laid, no matter how ridiculously or crassly, being about seduction. These two? Were about convenience. And it was so strange.

The whole thing made me oddly disappointed in the species.

Date: 2008-12-05 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
- The time-wimey holiday cards of awesome arrived.

Are they what I think they are?

- Last night we went with several people to see Michael Arannella and His Dreamland Orchestra at Galopagos.

::facepalm:: I TOTALLY FORGOT.

As to the rest of it...

Ew.

We are not queer for your pleasure, go away.

Date: 2008-12-05 03:41 pm (UTC)
herself_nyc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] herself_nyc
It makes a good story anyhow.

Thanks for adding me back.
Looking at the photos of you, I know I've seen you, or at least your image, before. Could we possibly have met? Why do you look so familiar? I never get out or go anywhere, so I suspect it's because I've seen you in print somewhere?

Date: 2008-12-05 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I was on a billboard on 14th and 1st awhile ago (like 7 - 8 years?). That's the only thing I can think of that really looks like me. Do you do you go to cons at all or are in the SF/F? I speak at a lot of cons/know a lot of people. Those are my only guesses, unless you ever worked in the dot.com industry.

Date: 2008-12-05 04:09 pm (UTC)
herself_nyc: (Herself - Traddles & Me)
From: [personal profile] herself_nyc
A billboard? Cool!
But I don't think that's it.
Nor is it any of those other things.
But I'm pleased to read you.

Date: 2008-12-05 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
This reminds me of that time when the dude asked me if I performed at bachelor parties like midgets! Midgets!

Date: 2008-12-05 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Ha. I've seen my share of these scenarios. I generally have just walked away from the crazy though :-P. Anytime I try to use humor and grace to deflect, people seem to think I'm flirting. I must be doing it wrong :-P.

In any case, your story is all too familiar. I think most people simply don't notice what goes on past their nose.

Date: 2008-12-05 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzipan-pig.livejournal.com
One nice thing (among many) about getting older and heavier is that I thing it makes me more invisible when I'm with women, instead of more of an attraction. I used to be more of a magnet for male friends asking me if I wanted to come home with them and their (known-to-me or not) gf, *without consulting the gf*.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com
Odd. I get more lesbian flirts now that I am heavier. :D We must move in different cultures.
Oooh unless you meant you now blend in and aren't a target for men. Yea, that is nice :D

Date: 2008-12-05 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
was trying to validate herself through outrageousness

*contemplates the sudden, sinking feeling in her gut*

Oh. Oh my. I'm going to have to go have a think about that, as that sounds horribly fuckin' familiar. *frowns*

Darn you for being so thought-provoking, anyways! ;)

Date: 2008-12-05 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mobobocita.livejournal.com
Yeah I have to admit, I had my first run in at bowling a few weeks ago. Boy wanted to play with my girl, when he got the memo finally, he wanted us to play. When turned down, he offered to be our baby daddy! O_o

Later he did redeem himself every so slightly, he was talking about being divorced, the girl just quietly said she'd not know what that was like, she doesn't have the right to get married and he stopped and apologized to her for people being so small and stupid about that.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popfiend.livejournal.com
*digests*

Thank you.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipchan.livejournal.com
"Stupid straight people trying to have group sex with us," should be on a bumber sticker somewhere. For some reason that tickled me on a fairly crappy day, though I know it shouldn't have.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marchek.livejournal.com
There's a lot of stuff going on with my parents right now.
Sorry to hear that.

Seriously, I think Aranella using his hand to block/modulate the sound from the mouth of his trombone was the filthiest thing I have ever seen.
Oh yes.

When that woman walked up to me first she put her arm around my shoulders and said "I'm so sorry I got here late". I honestly thought one you knew her. The whole situation when I got back from coat check just confused me.
Men hitting on me I've dealt with, drunk straight women asking for group sex because she thinks I'm a lesbian is totally new to me. I've apparently lived a pretty sheltered life. I was more bewildered than shocked and more offput by her behaviour than outraged. That said, the whole event did bring a certain closure to the evening.

Date: 2008-12-05 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I thought you knew her precisely because of that!

So glad I am not the only one who was like "woah, porn" about the Aranella thing. Patty had that reaction too. I was just like, "oh, hi, I need to go home and write fisting porn set in the 1920s."

Date: 2008-12-05 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marchek.livejournal.com
Between him working the trombone and handling the trumpet like that it really was pretty porntastic.

Also, that woman has serious boundary issues.

Date: 2008-12-05 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
What really floored me about the thing with that woman was that I've been on the receiving end of that stuff so often, but it was the first time I was actually offended by a woman's actions in the situation. Really offended.

And dude. I've thought Aranella was hot from the get go, but last night was fucking ridiculous.

Date: 2008-12-05 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marchek.livejournal.com
Yes it was, and that was exactly what I needed last night.

FYI, Marilyn has hangover.

Date: 2008-12-05 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argentla.livejournal.com
"Stupid straight people trying to have group sex with us," I say.

I was opining the other day that there were few things worse than a guy hitting on you who just won't take no for an answer. I think that would be one of them.

I kind of wonder what their story was. Not enough to make me sympathetic, though.

Date: 2008-12-05 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
I'm far from certain which I find more strange - propositioning total strangers for group sex or propositioning people while not being remotely sensual or seductive, but the second is clearly far more sad & pathetic.

Date: 2008-12-05 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenshallows.livejournal.com
how she;ll fel about it today? gret probably. cetainly not struckdown with any insight into how much she devalued you both, or how obvious and crass she was, o even how old that routine is. if anythibg, she;ll probably think she was just a little too risque for your clearly vnilla self. dumbos like hat lways do.

Date: 2008-12-05 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] askeladden.livejournal.com
I love doing hand wah-wahs (as opposed to plunger wah-wahs, which are also fun) on my trumpet. It feels as sexy and ridiculous as it looks. All warm and breathy and brassy.

It seems like every dyke I've ever met has had a dude randomly hit on her at one point or another, but I sure can't remember it ever happening to me. Oh well. I guess I'd rather be chopped liver than fresh meat.

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