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[rm]

You know, it scares me when I have to say that comparatively, DW/TW/SJA fandom is so sane, but it is, especially in comparison to the antics over in Supernatural fandom ("let's send RPS to the actors" and "let's call security on the actors' gfs") and now SGA fandom (poor bastard). Of course, I know not to tar whole fandoms with the crazy brush, and I'm sure it will be my poor little fandom's turn soon, but perhaps, oh perhaps, we will heed these cautionary tales of batshittery. At least our bad boundary stuff has mostly happened in private. Christ.

Saw the SyFy name change ads on the bus this morning. STILL WRONG.

Forgot to mention I saw the preview for the new Trek when we saw Watchmen the other day. It looks AWESOME.

Orson Scott Card has joined the board of NOM or 2M4M or whatever the anti-gay marriage gathering storm bigots are calling themselves this week. No, I'm not surprised. And at this point, one can hardly even be disappointed. But I am, just a little, because at a given point you just run out of ways to boycott the work of someone that objectionable. That's right, I'm annoyed because I can't find a way to reject Card and his work enough.

Working my butt off. Lots of wacky freelance writing and deadlines for the Germans. In limbo on various creative/criticism projects. Fighting pothos.

Woo! Hey, got a CoT nomination for that Jack/Andy/Ianto porn I wrote the other day. Meanwhile, trying to finish a ton of small stories and feeling increasingly dubious I will make the Tardis Big Bang deadline. IHNIIHBT and one of its installments (The Most Beautiful Girl in the World) also won some other awards a couple of days ago. Yay.

Patty, still in Atlanta. Cool things there yesterday, but for her to tell.

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[schpahky.livejournal.com]

The new Trek movie looks totally awesome. And I am not even into Trek.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Hey, unlocked post. Not for work details. I'll post about that when I get a chance, except it wasn't that interesting except as a weird exercise in alternate political history.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

Gleep! Poor Dhew. I think there are some fairly disturbing Tennantfen, but even they wouldn't stoop to that. Yet.

UGH. Will never get used to SyFy. Sounds like a bad brand-name detergent.

Trek sounds - odd, but Simon Pegg as Scotty can only be a good thing.

I never got into Card's work in the first place: now it seems I have another reason to be more reticent to do so.

G'luck!

[lonebear.livejournal.com]

I'm debating:

I bought card's books before I knew what a douchbag he is.
I have not given him any money since. I try to avoid even compilations that he has a work in.

Do I get rid of his books, or keep them.

Actually not an easy decision.

[misch.livejournal.com]

Oops. Sorry.

[ericcoleman]

My son is a big fan of OSC's work ... and it bugs him cause, in my son's words "he's such an asshole"

[neifile7.livejournal.com]

Hey, congrats on the nom and the recent Forbidden Awards, all well-deserved!

And this is a fucking Huge Can-O-Worms, but I'd like to hear more (maybe at a later date) on where you think the bad boundary stuff comes from in fandoms. It kind of worries me sometimes. Been thinking about this since your LunaCon posts, actually.

[offbalance.livejournal.com]

People went to this poor guy's house? Unbelievable. Will the battshittery never cease?

As for OSC, he's such a bigoted asshole that it's kind of prevented any fond feelings I might have had for the Ender/Bean books, which I really liked before I truly grasped the depth of his asshattery.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Well, I think it's a hugely different issue in media fandoms (where there are stars who are hot), but I do have some pretty clear feelings about it. And yeah, it's on the inherently ugly topic list.

[tommx.livejournal.com]

I had heard that about Orson Scott Card. I'm now no longer really fretting that I never read any of his stuff. Granted, I never really was to begin with.

[redstapler.livejournal.com]

Every time OSC reasserts his bigotry, it hurts me more and more.

Ender's Game was SUCH an important book to me, that it feels like knives in my heart to hear him be such an asshole.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

I suppose in retrospect, it is now significant that the Aliens his hero Ender commits genocide against were never called anything other than the Buggers.

[nobodyreally.livejournal.com]

I think I will start turning his books upside down and backwards in the racks and muttering, "Isn't he always going on about gay marriage? Writes a lot about young boys, too..." whenever I see someone looking at them.

[xtricks.livejournal.com]

Regarding Supernatural, at least, I think that the qualities of the show (mysogyny (sp), producer!fail) have a tendency to attract a higher quotient of batshit fans (or at least mysoginistic, entitledment oriented ones). Which doesn't mean all SPN fans are like that, of course but still.., craptastic behavior by producers and in the show's basic themes must influence those who watch it. I know my response to what I saw was to stop watching it.

OSC .... god, so strange. One of the more memorable books I read as a kid was his and titled (I think) 'Lost Boys' or similar. Mostly what I remember were the several post-apocolyptic explicit young boy/young boy masochistic sex with, among other things, vics vapor rub as lube. I imagine he's very glad that books is long out of print and mostly forgotten.

[nisaa.livejournal.com]

I only recently read some of OSC's books and enjoyed them but will now stop reading him.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I've never seen it, so this is news to me. Short version?

[demotu.livejournal.com]

You know, people kept telling me OSC was a homophobe, but somehow I didn't realize he was that ACTIVELY a homophobe.

Oh well. I got EG out of the library and had no desire to read the sequels. (I did love it, I just felt it's the kind of book that is probably spoiled by sequels.)

I guess he'll die at some point, and then he can be one of the dead bigots we read anyway because "they lived in another time". *sporfle*

[xtricks.livejournal.com]

I don't think I can; finding 'lost boys' by OSC is a different thing than I remember. I read a collection of short 'sci-fi' stories over 28 years ago, I thought it was 'lost boys' by OSC and I clearly remember a scene in some sort of grimy bathroom with two pre-pubescent boys doing sort of exploratory but pretty explicit sex.

I was pretty young myself. It stuck with me because a; It was weird. and b; I was also pretty young but kind of sexually fucked up due to RL.

Obviously, so long ago, I could be totally wrong so I can't claim facts on this one.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Ah, I meant "Why is Supernatural Evil?" as I've not seen that.

The OSC thing though is, indeed, fascinating.

[browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com]

Exactly. ARGH!!

[jonquil.livejournal.com]

I boycott you ON OTHER PEOPLE'S BEHALF! From the heart of Hell I boycott you!

[xtricks.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's evil, per se but I do think it's hugely mysogynistic, and that the producers are having both the problem of catering to the fans vocal, but not very nice, wishes to get rid of female characters who migh interfere with the main slash pairing and also disliking or mocking the very same fans.

have some links:
http://giandujakiss.livejournal.com/777953.html
http://giandujakiss.livejournal.com/775313.html

I can say I watched the first two seasons and - despite the fact that so much of it is my favorite type of stuff - I found it so offensive I stopped watching. I do think that the show's mysogyny (god, spelling) reinforced fans who also dislike women, espeically since one of the more common themes of the show is 'female charcter looks like they might be a romantic interest for one of the brothers but turns out to be evil/killed off/leaves because they can't compete with the brotherly love and the brothers ride triumphantly off into the sunset together'. That's not an uncommon bad slash trope.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

Oh ew. I mean, I don't mind slash, but when it gets to be misogynistic like that, it fails miserably. I mean, that is worse than, "oh no, slashers are taking over our leads, let's paste on yay a het pairing!" for no good reason

[redstapler.livejournal.com]

They were renamed the Formics in later novels, and the genocide shifted in society's eyes to a great bloodstain on humanity's hands.

Otherwise, your point stands.

[redstapler.livejournal.com]

Lost Boys was one of the creepiest, most awesome books I ever read. Fantastic mystery novel, with a supernatural twist.

I don't remember that scene, but it's also been over ten years since I read it.