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rm8 upheld, but existing marriages still legal.
Because 18,000 gay marriages won't destroy civilization but equal rights will?
The entire situation, that this is even something we're debating as a nation, is so completely irrational, I kinda can't deal with it. It is only rational if the debate is framed thusly: "are gay people human?" and until people who are anti-equal marriage are willing to make the assertion that gay people are not, in fact, human and as such should not be allowed to enter into any legal contract or business relationship, I have even less than zero patience for their arguments.
Say what you mean and mean what you say. Even if I find your personal "deeply held beliefs" bigoted and offensive, I'm peripherally willing to acknowledge you as a thinking person if you at least have the nerve and the intellect to stand by what you really mean.
And if you tell me, "well, no, I do think gay people are human but it just shouldn't be called marriage" or some other half-assed "compromise"? Intellectually weak. Examine your shit and choose a side. Either hold your nose and advocate for calling it marriage despite your discomfort, because gays are human, DESPITE YOUR DISCOMFORT, or go join the camp that says I'm not.
THIS IS NOT A COMPROMISE ISSUE.
Perhaps I'll be rational later. Oh wait, this is being rational. It is rational to be outraged. It is rational to be angry. We shouldn't have to live like this.
Because 18,000 gay marriages won't destroy civilization but equal rights will?
The entire situation, that this is even something we're debating as a nation, is so completely irrational, I kinda can't deal with it. It is only rational if the debate is framed thusly: "are gay people human?" and until people who are anti-equal marriage are willing to make the assertion that gay people are not, in fact, human and as such should not be allowed to enter into any legal contract or business relationship, I have even less than zero patience for their arguments.
Say what you mean and mean what you say. Even if I find your personal "deeply held beliefs" bigoted and offensive, I'm peripherally willing to acknowledge you as a thinking person if you at least have the nerve and the intellect to stand by what you really mean.
And if you tell me, "well, no, I do think gay people are human but it just shouldn't be called marriage" or some other half-assed "compromise"? Intellectually weak. Examine your shit and choose a side. Either hold your nose and advocate for calling it marriage despite your discomfort, because gays are human, DESPITE YOUR DISCOMFORT, or go join the camp that says I'm not.
THIS IS NOT A COMPROMISE ISSUE.
Perhaps I'll be rational later. Oh wait, this is being rational. It is rational to be outraged. It is rational to be angry. We shouldn't have to live like this.
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Date: 2009-05-26 05:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-26 05:39 pm (UTC)Upholding the rights of a few to maintain their marriages is the tiny shred of silver tinsel in this huge ugly thunderstorm.
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Date: 2009-05-27 12:36 am (UTC)