Meanwhile, there was a post about LGBT discomfort with content in Torchwood: Children of Earth, which I seriously disagreed with here. My comment is on page 2. Obviously the whole thing contains epic spoilers. The original commenter has, what I feel, is a reasonable point of view I disagreed with. However, some of the comments are illuminating as regards the paragraph previous to this, as they are filled with random examples of misogyny and more than a few straight women informing us they were only there for the queer and they feel betrayed.
*Sigh* I feel... very defeated.
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Date: 2009-07-14 04:19 pm (UTC)What's so amazing to me, and frustrating, is it's so easy not to fetishize. Treat gay relationships like any other relationship, the end. You do a perfectly fine job -- I've never blinked at anything in your writing that way.
Of course, what I am perhaps not getting is that some of the fetishization comes out of extremes of heteronormativity in people's own lives, and as such the gay cliches they write don't pop out at them anymore than the heterosexual cliches in their own lives. This disturbs me, but is something I have to recognize I can't see well, as so much of my life has been about opting the fuck out of that: I'm bisexual and I have a lot of privilege as a thin, attractive woman. It would be very easy for me to have a life all about the rules. I tried it and I was bored.
P.S., I'll be donating to both charities tonight when I'm on a more trusted machine.
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Date: 2009-07-14 06:48 pm (UTC)A fortiori, if your most salient knowledge of gay relationships comes from third-hand misinformation originating from The 700 Club and equally well-informed sources, and then you try to write fiction with gay characters, then in order to not-fetishize, you have to make a similar mental effort to re-calibrate your perceptions.