[personal profile] rm
Apparently women and queers are ruining SF.

Torchwood gets a not insignificant amount of text, and, sadly, Dirk Benedict is referenced. If you're thinking this can't end well, you'd be right.

Maybe I'll actually pick it apart for your viewing pleasure later. But maybe I'll actually have something more useful to do instead, like ruining the genre with my homosexual girl-bits or the cock in my dresser drawer or something.

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?
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Date: 2009-10-12 10:56 pm (UTC)
ext_52603: (Otto Hahn and Lise Meitner)
From: [identity profile] msp-hacker.livejournal.com
LOL. I love how women and homosexuals are also blamed for boys - and just boys - not going into scientific careers, and thus halting the advancement of the sciences.

Date: 2009-10-12 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com
Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Ruining sci-fi, what else is there? *runs off to work on Babiez*

Date: 2009-10-12 10:58 pm (UTC)
yendi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yendi
Oy. If people are still referencing Dirk's insanely misogynistic rant, that's just sad.

Then again, reading the "about" page for that site tells me that it's the sort of crackpot site that doesn't even deserve any attention, which, thirty years ago, would have been printed on an old mimeograph machine and typed out in the basement of the house in which the writer lives with his mom.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
hllangel: Puppy with a stick. (Default)
From: [personal profile] hllangel
I'm already pissed off at the first sentence. Just because they *think* boys are the "only" ones enjoying it doesn't mean it's true.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themaskmaker.livejournal.com
Because he has grievances.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:04 pm (UTC)
ext_20420: (loser)
From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
No real name, no real content. Yup, total FAIL.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:05 pm (UTC)
sethg: a petunia flower (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethg
+1 for the icon.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
*reads*

*boggles*

What the fucking fuck is this infuriating shit? I mean, do people really think...? GAH!

Words fail me.

Right. I'm putting "Ruining SF" on my daily agenda from now on.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
Oh shit, I haven't been ruining any sci-fi today!

This reminds me of the hysterical man I had to ban from my LJ after I made some comments about how I would be happy to see a gay James Bond.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com
The complaint that the new Buck Rodgers didn't have much science in it just makes me giggle. Because... it's *Buck Rodgers*. It's like complaining there isn't much science in Loony Tunes.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
You have reminded me of my overwhelming need to write Bond/Villiers, which apparently stopped being interesting to me once I found Torchwood, since it's very nearly Jack/Ianto.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firefly124.livejournal.com
Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Apparently, ruining more sf. I had no idea I had that kind of power.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
Oh my lord. I think the entire rant could be summed up as Girls = BAD, Boys = GOOD. Not the most sophisticated of arguments.

*rushes away to ruin more SF*

Date: 2009-10-12 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunhawk.livejournal.com
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I'll be over here, writing more Kirk/Spock, with the added enjoyment of my awareness that the same sort of boys that write that sort of crap absolutely twist in the wind with agony over the thought of Kirk and Spock having buttsex. It's gonna be NC17, baby!

Then I'm going to go back to studying the schemata of the Enterprise, since I'm fascinated with the layout of Star Trek ships. Which of course I shouldn't be doing, since I'm a girl and science is a Man Thing *snicker*

I want a button that says "Ruining SF" LOLOL

Date: 2009-10-12 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com
To quote a certain SF icon that has been ruined by teh geyz, “What? What? WHAT?

I mean, “Given that this is the BBC, all of this nonsense that alienates men for the benefit of women shouldn’t be surprising.” It’s not surprising because the BBC...is British? Supported by the Government? Runs on tea? What the hell is he even saying?

I wonder what Minsky would think about his statements being (mis)appropriated by this joker?

Oh, and then I went to the “about” page and found this gem:
Over the last few years, it has become increasingly obvious that American men — particularly those of the post-boomer generations — have fallen into a cultural gap. Our voice is barely a whisper in the traditional media,* we are consistently portrayed as worthless buffoons** and advertisers ignore us.***

But underneath the gossip shows on TV, the newspaper articles written by elderly columnists and the parade of empty-headed starlets there is a rising murmur of dissent — a growing dissatisfaction with the shabby state of affairs. There is a palpable feeling that our legitimate grievances have been ignored even as more and more indignities are heaped on our heads.

...

This magazine is an expression of our growing voice, and combines the talents of some of the Anglosphere’s**** best bloggers on men’s issues.

* I know, dude! Like, I can’t remember the last time I saw a white male news anchor, or political commentator.
** Yeah, that Jack Bauer — what a loser.
*** Apparently someone has never seen a commercial for beer, the Girls Gone Wild! DVDs, the Axe product line, or that Pepsi AMP stuff...and now I’m feeling kind of jealous.
**** The Anglosphere. I got nothing.

Edited Date: 2009-10-12 11:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-12 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usullusa.livejournal.com
Soon we will all revert back to the stone age because scifi is full of women and queers, sapping our youth of all curiosity and creative energy. Shame on us.

This is so outrageous I can't even be angry. It's just amusing in a pathetic sort of way.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smirnoffmule.livejournal.com
This post actually makes me proud to have been influential in ruining the genre for the likes of this man.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dimethirwen.livejournal.com
I read this first as "women and queers are ruining San Francisco," and I was going to tell this whole story about how when I was about to move out to the Bay Area, my Republican (& asshole) uncle made a point of talking about how he used to live in San Francisco, and how beautiful it was... until the queers got to it. And now it's a den of sin or whatever.

But then I read the linked article. And it's the same level of fail.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
Writing sci-fi that involves black people and lesbians. Because I'm a ruiner like that bb.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I did have a little warm glow of a moment to be in Torchwood fandom at this, I will admit.

Date: 2009-10-12 11:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-12 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com
I know. I kept waiting for him to proudly declare his membership in G.R.O.S.S. (Get Rid of Slimy girlS).

WIMMINZ: IN UR GENRE, GAYIN UR SCI-FI

Date: 2009-10-12 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lefaym.livejournal.com
I have to admit that I had to laugh at the title of his blog -- "The Spearhead" -- how very phallic.

Typical MRA stuff -- it's not like straight men have been written out of sci-fi, even in Torchwood. It's just that women and GBL people have been allowed in. This man comes across to me as a little boy complaining that he doesn't want to play with the icky girls because they have germs.

Re: WIMMINZ: IN UR GENRE, GAYIN UR SCI-FI

Date: 2009-10-12 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kproche.livejournal.com
and we gay men are even ickier because we obviously all act like icky girls.

BLEARGH

Date: 2009-10-12 11:38 pm (UTC)
sethg: a petunia flower (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethg
Considerably more men than women are interested in reading and watching science fiction.... Science fiction traditionally is about men doing things, inventing new technologies, exploring new worlds, making new scientific discoveries, terraforming planets, etc.

...and the author thinks that's a GOOD thing. What more needs to be picked apart?

Back in the 1950s, it was actually possible for a fan to keep up with the field by reading every single novel published under the "science fiction" rubric. Not so today, by a long shot. I'm sure that someone who pines for the good old days can find enough Manly Sci-Fi, with the same gender roles and literary quality as The World of Null-A, to fill his time.

But of course that isn't enough. The field must be purged of girlish influence, so that Manly Sci-Fi novels and readers won't get cooties.
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