here, have some fail

[rm]

Apparently women and queers are ruining SF.

Torchwood gets a not insignificant amount of text, and, sadly, Dirk Benedict is referenced. If you're thinking this can't end well, you'd be right.

Maybe I'll actually pick it apart for your viewing pleasure later. But maybe I'll actually have something more useful to do instead, like ruining the genre with my homosexual girl-bits or the cock in my dresser drawer or something.

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Comments

[msp-hacker.livejournal.com]

LOL. I love how women and homosexuals are also blamed for boys - and just boys - not going into scientific careers, and thus halting the advancement of the sciences.

taking the logic in a direction he didn't plan on going

[weirdquark]

So what he's saying is that men can't cope with competing with women. On what's not even a level playing field. I don't know if he thinks that men are lazy and just won't bother trying if women are around to do things for them, or if men are dazzled by the brilliance of women and don't dare to do what women can do because they'll obviously fail. Because it's not like sci-fi only shows women doing things. But if boys won't do science because they see men and women doing science, but they will if they see only men doing it, that must mean they think science is much harder when women do it and those men that do science with women are super genius aberrations. Women can do things that men have done, but once a women starts doing something, men can no longer do it. That is sad.

I mean, they can't be worried about getting cooties from the girls. There's a shot for that, you know. They discovered it using SCIENCE!

[jigglykat.livejournal.com]

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Ruining sci-fi, what else is there? *runs off to work on Babiez*

[yendi]

Oy. If people are still referencing Dirk's insanely misogynistic rant, that's just sad.

Then again, reading the "about" page for that site tells me that it's the sort of crackpot site that doesn't even deserve any attention, which, thirty years ago, would have been printed on an old mimeograph machine and typed out in the basement of the house in which the writer lives with his mom.

[themaskmaker.livejournal.com]

Because he has grievances.

[hllangel]

I'm already pissed off at the first sentence. Just because they *think* boys are the "only" ones enjoying it doesn't mean it's true.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

No real name, no real content. Yup, total FAIL.

[sethg]

+1 for the icon.

[britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com]

*reads*

*boggles*

What the fucking fuck is this infuriating shit? I mean, do people really think...? GAH!

Words fail me.

Right. I'm putting "Ruining SF" on my daily agenda from now on.

[phaetonschariot.livejournal.com]

Is it a gay agenda?

[browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com]

My jaw was on the floor at that one, too.

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

Oh shit, I haven't been ruining any sci-fi today!

This reminds me of the hysterical man I had to ban from my LJ after I made some comments about how I would be happy to see a gay James Bond.

[rm.livejournal.com]

You have reminded me of my overwhelming need to write Bond/Villiers, which apparently stopped being interesting to me once I found Torchwood, since it's very nearly Jack/Ianto.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

The complaint that the new Buck Rodgers didn't have much science in it just makes me giggle. Because... it's *Buck Rodgers*. It's like complaining there isn't much science in Loony Tunes.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

but but but, you mean the Acme Bat suit won't let me fly? and even if I don't notice I've run out of cliff I will still fall?


*sigh* this man has never heard of Leigh Brackett, James Tiptree Jr, Octavia Butler or Ursala K LeGuin. I wouldn't even mention Joanna Russ or Julian May in the same breath.

He has a point that some of the new stuff IS soap opera in space.

But I would remind him of Sturgeon's Law: 90% of Everything Is Crap. (and of the fact that SciFi was airing "Dark Shadows" when they first came on the air! Talk about soaps)

[firefly124.livejournal.com]

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Apparently, ruining more sf. I had no idea I had that kind of power.

[mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com]

Oh my lord. I think the entire rant could be summed up as Girls = BAD, Boys = GOOD. Not the most sophisticated of arguments.

*rushes away to ruin more SF*

[laughingacademy.livejournal.com]

I know. I kept waiting for him to proudly declare his membership in G.R.O.S.S. (Get Rid of Slimy girlS).

[sunhawk.livejournal.com]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I'll be over here, writing more Kirk/Spock, with the added enjoyment of my awareness that the same sort of boys that write that sort of crap absolutely twist in the wind with agony over the thought of Kirk and Spock having buttsex. It's gonna be NC17, baby!

Then I'm going to go back to studying the schemata of the Enterprise, since I'm fascinated with the layout of Star Trek ships. Which of course I shouldn't be doing, since I'm a girl and science is a Man Thing *snicker*

I want a button that says "Ruining SF" LOLOL

[britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com]

I want a button that says "Ruining SF"

I think you just gave me an idea for my next run of "badge ribbons" Thanks!

[laughingacademy.livejournal.com]

To quote a certain SF icon that has been ruined by teh geyz, “What? What? WHAT?”

I mean, “Given that this is the BBC, all of this nonsense that alienates men for the benefit of women shouldn’t be surprising.” It’s not surprising because the BBC...is British? Supported by the Government? Runs on tea? What the hell is he even saying?

I wonder what Minsky would think about his statements being (mis)appropriated by this joker?

Oh, and then I went to the “about” page and found this gem:

Over the last few years, it has become increasingly obvious that American men — particularly those of the post-boomer generations — have fallen into a cultural gap. Our voice is barely a whisper in the traditional media,* we are consistently portrayed as worthless buffoons** and advertisers ignore us.***

But underneath the gossip shows on TV, the newspaper articles written by elderly columnists and the parade of empty-headed starlets there is a rising murmur of dissent — a growing dissatisfaction with the shabby state of affairs. There is a palpable feeling that our legitimate grievances have been ignored even as more and more indignities are heaped on our heads.

...

This magazine is an expression of our growing voice, and combines the talents of some of the Anglosphere’s**** best bloggers on men’s issues.

* I know, dude! Like, I can’t remember the last time I saw a white male news anchor, or political commentator.
** Yeah, that Jack Bauer — what a loser.
*** Apparently someone has never seen a commercial for beer, the Girls Gone Wild! DVDs, the Axe product line, or that Pepsi AMP stuff...and now I’m feeling kind of jealous.
**** The Anglosphere. I got nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh wait, I can translate!

"Waah! Whaa waaah waaaaaa! Waaah. Waah!!!!"

[usullusa.livejournal.com]

Soon we will all revert back to the stone age because scifi is full of women and queers, sapping our youth of all curiosity and creative energy. Shame on us.

This is so outrageous I can't even be angry. It's just amusing in a pathetic sort of way.

[phaetonschariot.livejournal.com]

I know, right. Like every so often I think "wait, these guys are actually real people who think this" and then I go back to giggling.

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

This post actually makes me proud to have been influential in ruining the genre for the likes of this man.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I did have a little warm glow of a moment to be in Torchwood fandom at this, I will admit.

[dimethirwen.livejournal.com]

I read this first as "women and queers are ruining San Francisco," and I was going to tell this whole story about how when I was about to move out to the Bay Area, my Republican (& asshole) uncle made a point of talking about how he used to live in San Francisco, and how beautiful it was... until the queers got to it. And now it's a den of sin or whatever.

But then I read the linked article. And it's the same level of fail.

[azurelunatic]

Ruining SF since 2008!

[karnythia.livejournal.com]

Writing sci-fi that involves black people and lesbians. Because I'm a ruiner like that bb.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

And black lesbians? Cause that might make his brain explode.

WIMMINZ: IN UR GENRE, GAYIN UR SCI-FI

[lefaym.livejournal.com]

I have to admit that I had to laugh at the title of his blog -- "The Spearhead" -- how very phallic.

Typical MRA stuff -- it's not like straight men have been written out of sci-fi, even in Torchwood. It's just that women and GBL people have been allowed in. This man comes across to me as a little boy complaining that he doesn't want to play with the icky girls because they have germs.

Re: WIMMINZ: IN UR GENRE, GAYIN UR SCI-FI

[kproche.livejournal.com]

and we gay men are even ickier because we obviously all act like icky girls.

BLEARGH

[sethg]

Considerably more men than women are interested in reading and watching science fiction.... Science fiction traditionally is about men doing things, inventing new technologies, exploring new worlds, making new scientific discoveries, terraforming planets, etc.

...and the author thinks that's a GOOD thing. What more needs to be picked apart?

Back in the 1950s, it was actually possible for a fan to keep up with the field by reading every single novel published under the "science fiction" rubric. Not so today, by a long shot. I'm sure that someone who pines for the good old days can find enough Manly Sci-Fi, with the same gender roles and literary quality as The World of Null-A, to fill his time.

But of course that isn't enough. The field must be purged of girlish influence, so that Manly Sci-Fi novels and readers won't get cooties.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Making boys actually search for things is cruel. Didn't you know using a library is emasculating and unAmerican?

[wynkat1313.livejournal.com]

um... wow... ewwwww. I need a shower and brain bleach now. gods! - No, I know, we need to know about crap like this, but wow... just, wow.

[malle-babbe.livejournal.com]

Wow, that rant is right up there with the top rants of Dave "Can't Sleep, Vaginas Will Eat Me!" Sim...

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

You know, after putting in a long day destroying America by working an evil elitist art gallery, where I use my intellectual Master's in Art History degree and demonstrate monstrously unfeminine ease with the inventory database and occasionally (*horrors*) use a power drill with a screwdriver bit to open art crates, I am simply too tired for anything else.

I'll strive to do a better job giving guys cooties at next year's Bubonicon...

[karjack.livejournal.com]

Brb, ruining the genre.

[gairid.livejournal.com]

I'd like to volunteer to do anything to continue ruining this moron's enjoyment of SciFi. *is ruiner*

[laurashapiro.livejournal.com]

Oh, god, why did I read the comments? WHYYYY??? ::sobs::

Well, my day was pretty generic: I read a novel while my male partner bought groceries, and now I'm reading media criticism while he cooks our dinner. Clearly we're part of the problem.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

My agenda? outlining a new SF novel that is all about racism, classism, paranoia and isolation. The lead is a bisexual woman. Half the characters are female, although not necessarily human. It's called UNCANNY VALLEY and is my Nanowrimo project.

I also have some really gritty horror on the table, with omnivorously sexual characters (the patriarch of the clan likes barely legal boys, but has sired at least 8 kids on a variety of women) heading off a vampire apocalypse led by Cain himself (yes, Eve's boy, but not Adam's). Sex, violence, gore gore and more gore.

Other that that?
Just my usual homobisexual agenda day:
get the kids to school
run laundry and make sure the husband has socks
shower
breakfast
watch a movie
crochet and watch another movie
Weight watchers
cook dinner
more laundry
more crochet
consult with my webmistress as to why the site is down
bed at 9 so I can get up at 3 AM for work.

I somehow forgot to list "Destroy a literary genre" on my to do. I'll catch it tomorrow after I park my rig.