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Apparently women and queers are ruining SF.

Torchwood gets a not insignificant amount of text, and, sadly, Dirk Benedict is referenced. If you're thinking this can't end well, you'd be right.

Maybe I'll actually pick it apart for your viewing pleasure later. But maybe I'll actually have something more useful to do instead, like ruining the genre with my homosexual girl-bits or the cock in my dresser drawer or something.

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?
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Date: 2009-10-13 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] czarchasm.livejournal.com
I'm ruining on science fiction today by doing....SCIENCE.

Is the cock for meat purposes, or is it for fertilizing the eggs of the hens being kept in the wardrobe?

Date: 2009-10-13 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norda.livejournal.com
As I told [livejournal.com profile] tsarina, I didn't ruin any science fiction today.

But tomorrow I will ruin science fiction by...

* alphabetizing science fiction books at my bookstore not-a-job [GASP!]

* selling science-fiction-themed toys, books, DVDs, and audio dramas to men and women [CONSTERNATION!]

* being a vagina-owner with a science-oriented mind [HORROR!]

Icon chosen deliberately, because I'm proud to put pussy in my sci-fi. [grin]

Date: 2009-10-13 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
Oh, how I wanted to comment, "Sorry you're not getting laid." But I hit the back button instead.

Date: 2009-10-13 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-is-in.livejournal.com
That's ok....I came very close to posting "So, I guess I should stop reading your books and watching your shows and get back in the kitchen then?".

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Date: 2009-10-13 03:29 am (UTC)
exbentley: (orz)
From: [personal profile] exbentley
Why do I keep commenting! This is somewhat masochistic of me.

Date: 2009-10-13 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
If you can find a way to make it cathartic through either rage or humor or a nice blend of both, that's cool. Otherwise its better not to engage with people who can't see through their genitals.

Date: 2009-10-13 03:37 am (UTC)
weirdquark: Ayame (Fruits Basket) with text "I'm just fabulous" (fabulous)
From: [personal profile] weirdquark
If you're thinking this can't end well, you'd be right.

End well? I don't think I want to think about how it could possibly go downhill from the first sentence.

...I don't think I can make myself read the rest of that, and only partly because I haven't finished watching season one of the new and girlified BSG yet and don't want to risk spoilers.

I'd make a joke about how the women and queers ruining sci-fi is a plot to convince everyone that the Jews don't run Hollywood anymore, but then I'd have to find out that there are some people who think that's true, and that would make me sad.

Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

It's a bit late to work on today, but the collection of short stories in a shared universe that a friend and I keep joking about writing: QUEERS IN SPAAAAACE!!!! just got bumped up to the front of my brain again.

Date: 2009-10-13 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelady.livejournal.com
That article totally makes me itch to write a sci-fi novel, fill it with plenty of blood, guts, and action and have it star a female heroine with all the men quaking in their boots.

Date: 2009-10-13 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missdeanna.livejournal.com
What I found interesting was the implication that only boys go into engineering and sciences. Or are the only ones doing it who matter.

I have been woefully remiss at ruining anything today. I've been too lazy.

Date: 2009-10-13 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phaetonschariot.livejournal.com
Someone actually said in a comment with all apparent seriousness that men are the only ones inventing anything.

Date: 2009-10-13 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onemildrat.livejournal.com
Shoo! Scram! This (http://onemildrat.livejournal.com/35229.html) is (http://onemildrat.livejournal.com/35643.html) my (http://onemildrat.livejournal.com/34064.html) beat (http://onemildrat.livejournal.com/30586.html)!

On second thought, it does get lonely in the observation post here. I'm glad to have some company in watching this particular branch of insanity -- classified as Geek Misogynistic Screwheads. But trust me, you've only scratched the surface.

Date: 2009-10-13 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
What a bunch of testerical whiners.

Hmm, let's see, what's on my feminist anti-sf agenda? Draw and write more of my apparently subversive comics, and contribute to the castration of our macho heroes.

After that? The WORLD.

Date: 2009-10-13 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phaetonschariot.livejournal.com
I posted a Gay Agenda on the fridge. "Feed rabbit. Cook dinner. Destroy sci-fi."

Discussed the notion with my mother over homemade pizza (I was, in fact, barefoot when I cooked this. In the kitchen.) and was told that she got a science fair project from reading sci fi. Bear in mind also, my mother once worked in a drug lab and we have a copy of her thesis somewhere - she has some kind of maths/science background, anyway. But apparently when young she read a story about a man stuck on some other planet that was mostly water and he used iron... fuck I forgot what it was called but my brain is saying iron extraction? but it was to get copper out of the water to build a boat. And that got her super interested in this scientific process.

Maybe she's actually a man. She did do a whole pile of gardening today and works two jobs without crying whenever she's criticised. Then again, five kids had to come from somewhere...

Date: 2009-10-13 02:48 pm (UTC)
ext_3685: Stylized electric-blue teapot, with blue text caption "Brewster North" (writing)
From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
I posted a Gay Agenda on the fridge. "Feed rabbit. Cook dinner. Destroy sci-fi."

Sounds like icon-fodder to me, heh.

Date: 2009-10-13 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
My agenda? Finish my gay Hard SF story to inspire gay kids to become cybered drone pilot, of course!

Date: 2009-10-13 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackolantern.livejournal.com
I think that I'll re-read me some James Tiptree, Jr. As a teen with a penis, I found it terribly threatening, but I think I could probably roll with it a little easier now.

Date: 2009-10-13 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
TROLLLLLL!

The interesting part is, if you cut out all the instances where he references gender (or respin a couple), I can come up with the following complaint, which I share to a certain extent:

In an attempt to capture the "female demographic," the artist formerly known as SyFy has been dumbing itself down horribly, and the other networks are not much better. (The fact that the pursued females are insulted and turned off by being stereotyped is a separate issue.)

It's very difficult to find hard SF that makes any attempt to come up with a coherent and believable technology setup, which is one of the appeals that gets young people into science. I like hard SF, I feel like there used to be more of it, and I'd like it to come back, because the soap operas are winning.

**

Personally, as me and not my little summary, I love soap operas. I love following their crazy sprawling dramas, and the ratings say the world is with me. (Thank you, Babylon 5 for bringing this to sci fi producers' attention.) But I'd also like the Doctor's screwdriver to actually take some time to open a door, and not just be a Potteresque magic wand of doin' stuff.

Date: 2009-10-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
ext_3685: Stylized electric-blue teapot, with blue text caption "Brewster North" (geeks pwn)
From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
But I'd also like the Doctor's screwdriver to actually take some time to open a door, and not just be a Potteresque magic wand of doin' stuff.

True enough. Or have the Doctor open a door with Actual Science that isn't the sonic screwdriver (ISTR in one of the Cushing movies alt!One opens a door with a plastic comb because it's an insulator.)

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Date: 2009-10-13 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniperus.livejournal.com
I thought I might start the day by planting my foot squarely up Dirk Benedict's ass.

Instead I think I'll send his address to Kirk Cameron with the notation 'Happy to help with anything, send more info'


Date: 2009-10-13 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Starbuck in the original Battlestar Galactica is the first time I remember watching something as a kid and wanting to be a boy. The fact that Benedict has turned out to be such an asshole makes things very tangled in my head.

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Date: 2009-10-13 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slug-life.livejournal.com
There's not enough black people in SciFi. The space-rastas in Neuromancer don't count.

Date: 2009-10-13 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
I can't believe he thinks nobody is inventing anything anymore because of slash fiction. He needs to check out some of the futuristic sex toys and fucking machines I see in Torchwood fic! XD

Date: 2009-10-13 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Oh, this *is* priceless. Thanks for linking it.

" This season three gay characters will be added to various shows on “Syfy”, one of which will be part of a “communal marriage” with “heterosexual and homosexual couplings”. This will mean less programming where men actually do things and more relationship drama, driving away even more men from the channel."

The horror. The HORROR!

So I guess Men doing Things doesn't include doing Each Other. That would be . . . unmanly?

I think I'll go watch some more first season Star Trek tonight. After all, Kirk and Spock *never* got up to anything on the Enterprise during those longer spacely nights.

Be still my most powerful and queer of girl parts -- my brain.

Date: 2009-10-13 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Tell me, SF-ruiners, what's on your agenda today?

Lots and lots of hands-on chemistry experiments, followed by some electromagnetic simulation. Then tonight I'm hosting a movie night.

Not SF-ruining maybe, but science-ruining enough for that... writer guy, isn't it?

Date: 2009-10-13 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kirby-crow.livejournal.com
Considering this is the same publication that posits "most women are not particularly valuable in the workplace" in another article in the same issue, I just treat the Spearhead ezine like the piece of shit rag of hilarity it is: mock value only. And by mocking I mean pointing and laughing and being HAPPY AND PROUD to be one of the vaginas ruining the manly genre of scifi with my girl-cooties.

No sane woman would breed with any man who thought this way anyway, so they're like a dinosaur's last bellow before dying.

Date: 2009-10-13 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
He must be right. He has a sharp stick that looks like a penis!

Date: 2009-10-13 07:41 pm (UTC)
ext_6373: A swan and a ballerina from an old children's book about ballet, captioned SWAN! (Sci-Fi Diner)
From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
That was a very well thought out piece with a lot of good points. It totally deserves our attention. Like the kid reviewing movies for the college paper who wishes they'd get with the 21st Century and colorize Citizen Kane.

Date: 2009-10-13 10:59 pm (UTC)
l33tminion: Sporktacular (Spork)
From: [personal profile] l33tminion
From the article:

While the original series had its problems, it was more standard science fiction with men doing and accomplishing things.

LOL WUT? I can only invoke Poe's Law, that piece is its own best parody.

A lot of the rest of that site isn't quite so funny, though.

Date: 2009-10-14 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshuazelinsky.livejournal.com
In the 1950s there was controversy over the Twilight Zone having so many black characters. Some of the controversy actually seemed to occur not so much over the presence of black characters but that they weren't token characters. In some episodes such as "The Big Tall Wish" the primary actors were black and their race had nothing substantially to do with the story. The message that one could have a story involving black people who were just like white people apparently scared people even more than having token black individuals who acted in a stereotypical fashion.

So 50 years ago the complaint was about black people in SF. Now the complaint is about gays and women. What group will this focus on fifty years from now?

Date: 2009-10-14 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
Yes - let's bring back MANLY sci-fi! Like the wonderful Gor novels of yor. Cause women really want to be slaves to men (they are just too silly to know it).

Reminds me of a joke (my apologies to the good guys out there):
How many straight white males does it take to turn on a light bulb??
.
.
.
.
.

.
.
...None! They just stand still and expect the world to revolve around them!

Are you sure this article wasn't written by Rush Limbaugh?

Well, off to put on my butch pants and slay a few dozen aliens, and shag the rest. Oh the humanity!


Date: 2009-10-14 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kargashina.livejournal.com
haha! i will go to work while my husband watches our kids.. more sf ruined by me liking it..
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