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I joke, a lot, that no one wants to be famous or successful because they're well-adjusted. "None of us, you know, got enough love in our childhoods," I say.

I just figured out why the whole fucking marriage equality makes me so completely aggravated and stressed despite the fact that I'm actually pretty conflicted on the role marriage has both in gay culture and in turning couples of any type from "people in love" into "people obsessed with shoulds." (Obviously this whole mess doesn't do poly and plural marriages any favors either, since one of the main arguments seems to be "we're just gay, we don't fuck dogs or have lots of wives" -- which hello, is two types of totally different Not Okay Statements to Have to Make rolled into one asinine sentence).

I should have been done losing popularity contests in eighth grade. We all should have been done holding in eight grade.

Fuck you, Maine

Fuck you, bigots.

I don't want to catastrophize here, but the Maine situation is scary. Because it allows the bigots to think they have momentum, to think they are right, to think that we are abominations. That's one of those very funny words until it's applied to you.

I'm very scared of the implications of this. I know what anti-gay violence looks like first hand, and I am very concerned we're about to have a lot of it, and not just in Maine. I'm very concerned about what happens after the Obama years, when the backlash puts the bigots back in office right at the top. I'm very scared of the hate crimes law getting repealed; of my gay friends who have been able to marry being in danger because they are down on government paper as officially gay.

If you think I'm paranoid, think back to most of the events leading into and happening during the Bush administration. Right, now if you had called any of that shit back during the Clinton years, people would have said you were paranoid and worse. Yeah... well.... shit.

Date: 2009-11-04 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
Its times like this that make me embarrassed to be a straight person (and an American). What the fuck is wrong with people? I'm so sick of hearing that marriage is something sacred. In your church, yes. From the government's point of view it should only be about conferring civil rights to inheritance, child custody, health care access and the like.

As for gays degrading marriage, straight people have done a remarkably good job doing that all on their own.

Why don't we just have a civil union for everyone conferred by the state and if you want a religious 'marriage' fine go get one? Oh yeah, cause that would make sense, be fair and wouldn't demonize anyone. And goodness knows, you wouldn't want to have to recognize your fellow human being as your equal would you?

As for the Supreme Court, I'd feel a whole lot better with an additional appointee by Obama on the bench. This way too important to chance on a court that often splits five/four.

Date: 2009-11-04 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luke-jaywalker.livejournal.com
I absolutely agree that the state should simply get out of marriage. Government is a registrar for civil unions; marriage comes from your church or whoever. (My parents, adulthood-long atheists, had their wedding... MC'd, I suppose... by a philosophy-professor colleague of Dad's.)

RM, I wouldn't call this a disaster. It's a setback, but those happen; it's not the first and it won't be the last.

Date: 2009-11-04 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyrwench.livejournal.com
Exactly. All of it.

Date: 2009-11-04 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] glinda-w.livejournal.com
Word. All of it.

'cause I'm in that wordless state of half-rage, half-despair.

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