Waters of Mars

[rm]

"You're only 27-years-old."

Yes, Torchwood fans, that's when I started crying. Tell me I wasn't alone.

"Oh this bloody job never gave me a chance." Oh HAI THERE TORCHWOOD REFERENCE.

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Oh CRAZY CRAZY TEN HUBRIS. NOW YOU ARE THE MASTER's PERFECT BOYFRIEND.

Also, seriously... CoE parallels. Once again Doctor Who making what happened there much, much easier to live with, because it provides the act and the context for Jack's actions and the consequences of him having chosen differently. And wow, the Doctor so can't deal with Jack because he hates himself.

I love the degree to which we feel the Doctor really needs to regenerate soon, because he's become dangerous.

There are so many echoes of so many weird things in here... including the Ood.

Also, who else is utterly, completely, totally convinced, like from the second the Doctor start monologue-ing about about how Adelaide inspires her daughter that Jack is absolutely, definitely, descended from her.

Hey, close up of the TARDIS central column -- that's a goddamn film spool in the middle moving up and down. HOW GREAT IS THAT AS META? FUCK ME THIS SHOW IS RAD.

Oh, Doctor, you've done a very bad thing.

Also, hello, channeling Nine. That's some rad acting there, DT.

I know cannon will never tell us but is this why the Doctor couldn't step in re: CoE or is CoE why he went and did something dumb like this or did CoE happen because he did this shit? Because I really feel like while TW addresses Doctor Who explicitly, Doctor Who can only address Torchwood implicitly, and IT'S RIGHT HERE, KIDS.

Ood! I called it, Ood! (they really are the best fucking thing the new series has brought us). Ood!

Also, not only had Jack better be there for the regeneration, I have to say, that while we'll never (we hope) get a permanent Doctor death in canon, in fanon, my feeling after this episode is that Jack _must_ be there when the Doctor does finally truly die, because it is the only way to resolve the control/comfort/time dramarama shit between them.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, PEOPLE THIS IS WHY I WATCH THIS SHOW.

Comments

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

THIS! ALL THIS AND MORE! OMG!

The entire time I was watching, I went back and forth between CAPSLOCK FLAILYHANDS and utter... utter... silence.

Now I want to rewatch CoE. And then I want to read Ten/Jack and Ten/Master porn for the rest of my life. With some plot in, sometimes. Also, meta. I want meta.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I need to go back and rewrite my meta about how Jack is barred from heroism by his immorality as contextualized by this episode, because OMG, these shows when put together are so smart and independently, are good yarns but don't do even a fraction of what they do echoing off each other.

Also, sort of want slash between the guy who built the robot and the second in commend before everything went bad.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

I want to read that now now now. ::grabbyhands::

I also want talking-fic between Ten and Jack, post-WoM and post-CoE, where Ten is forced to admit that Jack is stronger than him, because he was able to let people die. So so so fuxx0red. (And then porn.)

[rm.livejournal.com]

Also, because Ten is crazy, he's going to feel morally obligated to try to be relationshippy with Jack in the post-CoE/WoM world you and I are suddenly talking about. And won't that be a toxic clusterfuck that Jack will be all "DO NOT WANT" about. People talk about Jack not getting shit and not growing up. But the Doctor is a bazillion times worse.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Would he try to get relationshippy, you think? Why so? Because Jack chose the TW team over Ten at the end of s3, so now he's one more person that Ten has lost and feels like he has to get back? Or something else?

Either way, there is fic brewing in my mind now. Oh dear.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Nah, I think it's just pure guilt with a hint of passive aggression. And I think it's so transparent. And I think Jack is very like "fuck you! you are the one person who could possibly understand where I am right now, and you think this is how to do it? fuck you. I'm not _wrong_, Doc, you're an asshole."

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Passive aggression? THE DOCTOR? Never. :)

Wibble. I may attempt to write this.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

I also want talking-fic between Ten and Jack, post-WoM and post-CoE, where Ten is forced to admit that Jack is stronger than him, because he was able to let people die. So so so fuxx0red. (And then porn.)

Seconded. AND SECONDED!

Sweet, sweet angst-ridden porn.

[exbentley]

Also, sort of want slash between the guy who built the robot and the second in commend before everything went bad.

Randomly, THIS. I had this moment where I genuinely thought they were holding hands during the touching we're-all-gonna-die-people-are-holding-hands scene and on my second rewatch I shipped it even harder, wow. If you wrote even a drabble, I'd read it.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm so glad someone else had that weird flash of "they'd be so cute together!" because dude, WTF?