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"You're only 27-years-old."

Yes, Torchwood fans, that's when I started crying. Tell me I wasn't alone.

"Oh this bloody job never gave me a chance." Oh HAI THERE TORCHWOOD REFERENCE.

...

Oh CRAZY CRAZY TEN HUBRIS. NOW YOU ARE THE MASTER's PERFECT BOYFRIEND.

Also, seriously... CoE parallels. Once again Doctor Who making what happened there much, much easier to live with, because it provides the act and the context for Jack's actions and the consequences of him having chosen differently. And wow, the Doctor so can't deal with Jack because he hates himself.

I love the degree to which we feel the Doctor really needs to regenerate soon, because he's become dangerous.

There are so many echoes of so many weird things in here... including the Ood.

Also, who else is utterly, completely, totally convinced, like from the second the Doctor start monologue-ing about about how Adelaide inspires her daughter that Jack is absolutely, definitely, descended from her.

Hey, close up of the TARDIS central column -- that's a goddamn film spool in the middle moving up and down. HOW GREAT IS THAT AS META? FUCK ME THIS SHOW IS RAD.

Oh, Doctor, you've done a very bad thing.

Also, hello, channeling Nine. That's some rad acting there, DT.

I know cannon will never tell us but is this why the Doctor couldn't step in re: CoE or is CoE why he went and did something dumb like this or did CoE happen because he did this shit? Because I really feel like while TW addresses Doctor Who explicitly, Doctor Who can only address Torchwood implicitly, and IT'S RIGHT HERE, KIDS.

Ood! I called it, Ood! (they really are the best fucking thing the new series has brought us). Ood!

Also, not only had Jack better be there for the regeneration, I have to say, that while we'll never (we hope) get a permanent Doctor death in canon, in fanon, my feeling after this episode is that Jack _must_ be there when the Doctor does finally truly die, because it is the only way to resolve the control/comfort/time dramarama shit between them.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, PEOPLE THIS IS WHY I WATCH THIS SHOW.

Date: 2009-11-16 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
I just find it soooo funny that your entire orientation to the show has Jack and Torchwood at the center.

I loved watching Tennant go from "I'm outta here" to "I can't do anything" to "I'm the master of the universe" to "oh nooooooes" all in one episode. It's like he completely skipped over the step of reasonable responsibility for monitoring the laws of time.

Date: 2009-11-16 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I got into Doctor Who through Torchwood, mostly.

Prior the only DW ep I'd seen was The Satan Pit, which I loved, but had no context for.

Combined, these two things probably show you how I orient to the Whoniverse in a pretty disturbing way.

Date: 2009-11-16 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Not disturbing, just uniquely you. ;-) It's good.

Date: 2009-11-16 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phaetonschariot.livejournal.com
I got into Doctor Who through Torchwood, mostly.

That might explain it - it was vice versa for me and I really wasn't having strong links to CoE watching WoM. It didn't even really occur to me that I should be.

Date: 2009-11-17 04:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chaos-by-design.livejournal.com
"I'm outta here" to "I can't do anything" to "I'm the master of the universe" to "oh nooooooes" all in one episode.

Seriously, I'm starting to wonder if he's bipolar.

Date: 2009-11-17 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Oh gawd, you are SO right.

I just ran with this idea on my LJ!
Edited Date: 2009-11-17 04:51 am (UTC)

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