Waters of Mars

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"You're only 27-years-old."

Yes, Torchwood fans, that's when I started crying. Tell me I wasn't alone.

"Oh this bloody job never gave me a chance." Oh HAI THERE TORCHWOOD REFERENCE.

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Oh CRAZY CRAZY TEN HUBRIS. NOW YOU ARE THE MASTER's PERFECT BOYFRIEND.

Also, seriously... CoE parallels. Once again Doctor Who making what happened there much, much easier to live with, because it provides the act and the context for Jack's actions and the consequences of him having chosen differently. And wow, the Doctor so can't deal with Jack because he hates himself.

I love the degree to which we feel the Doctor really needs to regenerate soon, because he's become dangerous.

There are so many echoes of so many weird things in here... including the Ood.

Also, who else is utterly, completely, totally convinced, like from the second the Doctor start monologue-ing about about how Adelaide inspires her daughter that Jack is absolutely, definitely, descended from her.

Hey, close up of the TARDIS central column -- that's a goddamn film spool in the middle moving up and down. HOW GREAT IS THAT AS META? FUCK ME THIS SHOW IS RAD.

Oh, Doctor, you've done a very bad thing.

Also, hello, channeling Nine. That's some rad acting there, DT.

I know cannon will never tell us but is this why the Doctor couldn't step in re: CoE or is CoE why he went and did something dumb like this or did CoE happen because he did this shit? Because I really feel like while TW addresses Doctor Who explicitly, Doctor Who can only address Torchwood implicitly, and IT'S RIGHT HERE, KIDS.

Ood! I called it, Ood! (they really are the best fucking thing the new series has brought us). Ood!

Also, not only had Jack better be there for the regeneration, I have to say, that while we'll never (we hope) get a permanent Doctor death in canon, in fanon, my feeling after this episode is that Jack _must_ be there when the Doctor does finally truly die, because it is the only way to resolve the control/comfort/time dramarama shit between them.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, PEOPLE THIS IS WHY I WATCH THIS SHOW.

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[sefkhet.livejournal.com]

"You're only 27 years old..."

GOD YES.

I know cannon will never tell us but is this why the Doctor couldn't step in re: CoE or is CoE why he went and did something dumb like this or did CoE happen because he did this shit?

[Excuse me for rambling in your LJ, but it is patently obvious that I haven't thought about much else since Sunday.]

In my head, something happened on Day Three when they were stealing Porsches and waiting tables and whatnot. The Tardis materialised on a London street and the Doctor ran smack into Ianto -- and he's known who Ianto Jones is since *long* before he turned up on the Tardis monitors in Journey's End. When he worked out what he'd turned up in the middle of, the Doctor told Ianto that he was sorry but he had to go, but that when Jack goes to Thames House, Ianto *has* to be with him, he can't let Jack talk him into staying behind and being safe, and if he goes to Thames House with Jack, everything will be all right. Ianto was perfectly Ianto, and it wasn't that he was unwilling to accept that, but he had to ask, because he already knew, if he was going to die.

That led to the Doctor telling him that history says that Ianto Jones died on September 13th 2009, and that it has to happen, because when he dies, that's the catalyst for everything -- for the world being saved from the 456, for Gwen Cooper taking over Torchwood and rebuilding it into something *new*, for Jack Harkness leaving the planet for a time and coming back to help Earth take its place in a galactic civilisation, for the stories that Mica Davies hears about her Uncle Ianto that will eventually lead to her going to Liverpool to build the shuttle that will take Adelaide Brooke to Mars.

And Ianto thanked the Doctor, made him promise to find Jack and look after him once it was all over, and set his shoulders and walked off to stand beside Jack and do what needed to do, knowing that his death was not going to be for nothing.

[malle-babbe.livejournal.com]

This! This so very much!

[shadings.livejournal.com]

Oh wow. That makes... SO much sense, oh my god, and has made me feel much better about everything. Thank you so much for sharing that! (: