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Re: heh, be careful what you say
Date: 2009-12-07 12:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 06:31 pm (UTC)and ::headdesk:: at the idea of NYS Passports.
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Date: 2009-12-06 06:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-12-06 06:48 pm (UTC)This is a major emotional matter for me happening as it did when I was in early puberty and just learning what it meant to be a woman. It was especially affecting as it occurred in my own country.
I have written about it in the past, here and here if you or anyone else wants to see how this has affected a Canadian woman.
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Date: 2009-12-06 06:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-12-06 06:48 pm (UTC)her response to question three I thought was brilliant and so simple.
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Date: 2009-12-06 07:12 pm (UTC)YES! :) Congrats!
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Date: 2009-12-06 07:13 pm (UTC)Now I will never have all the answers to your previous mysterious upstairs neighbors and their furniture moving sounds.
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Date: 2009-12-06 07:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-12-06 07:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 07:55 pm (UTC)Also LOL on the state passports. I used to joke about needing a passport to go from NJ to NYC.
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Date: 2009-12-06 08:08 pm (UTC)I have a diver's license (17 year old angst!face!), a student card, my military service ID (I was blonde!) and my Ministry of the Interior issued ID that I had to get when I was 16 (and boy was that a bad hair day) - it's a law to have a form of ID on our person at all times.
It's only when I read posts like this that I realise that it's odd to carry my "papers" every where, to present them to security guards when they don't like the way I look (which they usually don't, my politics are worn on my sleeve, or around my neck, or on my bag).
State passports, now that's a comedy of errors waiting to happen!
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Date: 2009-12-06 08:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 08:13 pm (UTC)As it turns out many HR departments are pre-screening CVs before sending them on to department heads. The HR people are instructed to look for certifications ( MCSE , CCNA, etc ... ) and if the Cv does not have any listed to trash it. The sad thing is these HR people have no clue, what they are looking for , they just look for the alphabet soup. The department heads complain that all tehy are getting is resumes from people who have just taken tests and have no real experience, while the people with enough experience and do not need the certifications ( 15 yrs experience for example ) are having their resumes tossed.
There are alot of evil things that go on with the whole CV business. It's become less and less of a display of skills but tailoring the document to get you past the drones who open the mail and into the office of the decision maker. This includes racist bits like you mentioned , as well as other sneaky bits. Luckily for me I have made a name for myself in the industry and usually ( at least over the past few obs ) the CV is just a formality after someone decides to hire me. Some people would use the dreaded "P-word" here , but I don't think it applies. I have worked long and hard both at my job and presenting my work at conventions and in papers to establish a reputation and history of knowing my job, and doing it well.
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Date: 2009-12-06 08:52 pm (UTC)what you mention here does in fact suck, but has so very little to do with what rm's link mentioned that i'm really amazed about how you can make everything all about you. (rm, please do not then laugh at what i'm about to post. ;)
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Date: 2009-12-06 08:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 08:58 pm (UTC)sucks, but i'd rather be employed than not. and i'm sad but not surprised to hear that it also works along other lines of oppression.
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Date: 2009-12-06 09:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 10:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-06 10:26 pm (UTC)It was a good morning.
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Date: 2009-12-07 12:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-12-07 12:50 am (UTC)Because I have no regional or ethnic inflections in my voice, most people--even black folks--assume I'm white. So when I go in for an in-person job interview, unless it's with someone I already know, there's inevitably the double-take moment of, "Wait--*you're* Nancy?"
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Date: 2009-12-07 12:52 am (UTC)...which reminds me, I love him, but dipshit most his Costco card and now I have to replace it. Sigh.
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Date: 2009-12-07 01:37 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-12-07 12:54 am (UTC)It really bugs me when idiots don't accept passports as ID - but I grew up in the passport offices, so that goes to show.
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Date: 2009-12-07 01:10 am (UTC)I'm an HR Director for a small but well known firm in Chicago. Yes, I generally screen resumes before sending them to managers based on the criteria they give me. We always try to find out what will substitute for a desirable credential, but I'm sure many HR departments don't.
As for names, I agree, if you think your name (due to religious, racial or ethnic identification) is holding you back use your initials. Kind of turns my stomach that I have to tell you that but many times (like right now) you may not have the luxury of being that picky.
But here are some pitfalls that you may not be aware of:
- Many companies use screening software (we don't). They are screening for specific words or phrases. You don't hit enough of these key words, your resume doesn't go forward. Unless you're screened manually, you will get shut out. So check resume web sites for key words in your profession. Yeah, it sucks but don't get shut out if you meet the requirements because didn't use the lingo.
- For goodness sakes, there's no excuse for spelling errors, especially spelling the company's name wrong. And no, spellcheck is not your friend if the company has a foreign name or an unusual spelling.
- Ditto for pitching your resume to another job. If I'm hiring pastry chefs (totally made up, we have nothing to do with food) don't have "wants to be sous chef as your goal." In fact, get rid of that shite, it will only be used to screen you OUT.!
- In the interest of space, we often compress stuff on our resumes. That's fine, just make sure you don't leave off stuff the employer wants. You should probably have 3-5 basic resumes that you then tailor to the specific job. Sending your standard CareerBuilder file without an attached targeted resume is a mistake. Its not customized, and frankly its a PITA to read. So no, don't just shoot your resume out there without reviewing that it covers every single item the employer asks for (assuming you have everything). That might mean eliminating an accomplishment that you feel proud of (won employee of the month award), for something mundane (proficient in Excel).
- Keep personal stuff off resumes. Should be obvious, but given that there is real prejudice, you don't want to give your potential employer a reason to screen you out. So anything related to your religion, sexual orientation, or politics should be excluded unless its related to a job.
I don't care about this stuff and whether you are telling me that you are a Druid or you go to my synagogue, or are a devout Christian or an atheist, I have to wonder if you have another agenda in making me aware of this.
Now if your last job was working for the Obama or McCain campaign then you are going to have to include that. Or you worked for your church. But you do not have to tell me (and I quote), "I am a hard working, married, born-again Christian with a lovely stay at home wife and three children."
Part of what I look at is goodness of fit. How well do I think this person will fit into an extremely religiously diverse and gay-friendly work place? But I'd be just as wary of a resume that had "Proud member of PFLAG" on it. Hey I am too, but what is your purpose in telling me?
Right now I have lots of qualified people looking for a job and if I have to choose between two people who are equally qualified, but one seems to have a need to let me know about their affiliations, frankly, I'm choosing the one who is focused on the job. That's life.
And if you do have issues because you have experienced job prejudice, please leave them at home when you interview. Cause, no one wants to hire a bright, qualified, but abrasive person. That's also life. And having been that bright, qualified and abrasive person in my younger years, I can attest that it doesn't get you anything but rejection letters.
And in the spirit of the holidays, if you have any specific questions you'd like to ask about job hunting or resumes, feel free to send me your questions via private mail. The only things I won't do is discuss my employer or write your resume.
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Date: 2009-12-07 02:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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