I was thinking in sort of an off-hand way the other day when I saw someone comment in regard to a couple of Doctor Who episodes (sorry, can't remember which of you it was) about how Britain is never going to get over WWII, that better that then... well, the US. I feel sometimes, that all we can remember is the Cold War that came after and our paranoia. Everyone is out to get us! If we approached the global threat of terrorism through the lends of WWII instead of through the lens of the Cold War, would we be behaving better? Would Gitmo be closed? Would we stop trading civil liberties for a false-sense of security? I don't know, but over here, I think we could use a lot more WWII memories and a lot fewer Cold War ones.
I was thinking in sort of an off-hand way the other day when I saw someone comment in regard to a couple of Doctor Who episodes (sorry, can't remember which of you it was) about how Britain is never going to get over WWII, that better that then... well, the US. I feel sometimes, that all we can remember is the Cold War that came after and our paranoia. Everyone is out to get us! If we approached the global threat of terrorism through the lends of WWII instead of through the lens of the Cold War, would we be behaving better? Would Gitmo be closed? Would we stop trading civil liberties for a false-sense of security? I don't know, but over here, I think we could use a lot more WWII memories and a lot fewer Cold War ones.
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Date: 2010-01-29 10:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-29 11:35 pm (UTC)On a similar note, my grandfathers fought on opposite sides in the same area of Italy. Yep. One day they got to talking and actually figured out where. That was an interesting conversation. :)
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Date: 2010-01-29 11:46 pm (UTC)Have you ever seen that movie AI: Artificial Intelligence? That comic sort of reminds me of it. And that movie ranks up there with some of the most disturbing I've ever seen for similar reasons. It just quirks something in my head.
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Date: 2010-01-29 11:55 pm (UTC)I saw the xkcd strip as mostly riffing on Wall-E, but it was still quite touching.
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Date: 2010-01-29 11:58 pm (UTC)They are tough and they are brave and they are courageous. Don't insult them by portraying them as homesick creatures that have been abandoned. They have impressed the hell out of everyone who followed them. See them as curious, stubborn, resourceful explorers who have gone out to do the best job they can and done better than ever expected.
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Date: 2010-01-30 12:11 am (UTC)When I grew up hearing about war, it was about muddy, rat infested trenches and friend's corpses left in no man's land because they couldn't be retrieved. It was about gruelling boredom interspersed with abject terror, trench foot, lice, inedible food and "going over the top". It was grim pride in the fact that we did things that no other country had managed no matter how many times they tried, but without ever forgetting for a moment what it had cost. There's no Memorial day in Canada, it's Remembrance Day, renamed from Armistice Day; still commemorated at the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month. Needless to say, it's short on picnics but long on tears and ceremony.
Maybe the really scary thing about the cold war and "war on terror" being what occupies your countrypeople's minds is that so few of you have actually been touched by it. 9/11 was a horror, of course, and the country was rocked to its roots, but even with the subsequent war in Iraq, as a culture you are too far away from it. You have not watched every able-bodied young man of a generation walk away for four years. Too few of you are directly involved; too few of you that really understand why "glorious war" is such an oxymoron. You all get fear, you just don't necessarily have the horror embedded in your culture the way some do.
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Date: 2010-01-30 12:26 am (UTC)I don't get to talk about it often because obviously this means I had a late term abortion. And unfortunately that puts me at risk. We ended up having several other reproductive woes on our way to getting our now 9 year old son.
He was on my Christmas card list. I wanted him to know that by being who he was and being kind and compassionate I eventually was able to have my son who is now 9.
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Date: 2010-01-30 01:40 am (UTC)she's his DAUGHTER!!!!
carry on.
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Date: 2010-01-30 01:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-30 01:42 am (UTC)OMG. This.
This this this.
this.
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Date: 2010-01-30 02:59 am (UTC)Growing up I lived very close to a military base. They would test-blow the air raid siren every day at noon. The Saturday afternoon after watching The Day After on Friday night when it went off I was completely freaked. Shortly after that I started a VHS collection of every nuclear war movie I could find, and related material. I was riding the bus to school reading CD ( Civil Defense ) manuals while others were dancing to Duran Duran.
Still, nothing I have found is more disturbing than "Threads". Anyone who is sensitive/triggery to such things should avoid it.
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