I was thinking in sort of an off-hand way the other day when I saw someone comment in regard to a couple of Doctor Who episodes (sorry, can't remember which of you it was) about how Britain is never going to get over WWII, that better that then... well, the US. I feel sometimes, that all we can remember is the Cold War that came after and our paranoia. Everyone is out to get us! If we approached the global threat of terrorism through the lends of WWII instead of through the lens of the Cold War, would we be behaving better? Would Gitmo be closed? Would we stop trading civil liberties for a false-sense of security? I don't know, but over here, I think we could use a lot more WWII memories and a lot fewer Cold War ones.
I was thinking in sort of an off-hand way the other day when I saw someone comment in regard to a couple of Doctor Who episodes (sorry, can't remember which of you it was) about how Britain is never going to get over WWII, that better that then... well, the US. I feel sometimes, that all we can remember is the Cold War that came after and our paranoia. Everyone is out to get us! If we approached the global threat of terrorism through the lends of WWII instead of through the lens of the Cold War, would we be behaving better? Would Gitmo be closed? Would we stop trading civil liberties for a false-sense of security? I don't know, but over here, I think we could use a lot more WWII memories and a lot fewer Cold War ones.
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Date: 2010-01-29 07:41 pm (UTC)The cold war seems to have a whole different quality here; it's like a scary fairy tale or a bad dream now. People talk about reading Z for Zachariah or When the Wind Blows and how scary they were, but there isn't the same personal level of stories or scars. Or maybe individual terrors are just harder to talk about and quantify.
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Date: 2010-01-29 07:49 pm (UTC)My parents can remember watching Manchester burn (the flames were visible twelve miles away) and at less than 50 I'm still old enough to remember bomb sites and having a primary school teacher who still had PTSD from having been torpedoed in the war.
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Date: 2010-01-29 09:14 pm (UTC)After it, I said, "Um, you do realise she was making munitions for - um - well -" and Mum said, "Well, obviously. Sounds like they were just as bad to work for as our lot, too."
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Date: 2010-01-29 11:35 pm (UTC)On a similar note, my grandfathers fought on opposite sides in the same area of Italy. Yep. One day they got to talking and actually figured out where. That was an interesting conversation. :)
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Date: 2010-01-29 07:49 pm (UTC)So it's stil alive because people who lived it are still alive and told their children, maybe. (Neither my stepdad nor my father talked about it much. My stepdad never said anything and I only got one story from my dad when he was drunk.)
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Date: 2010-01-29 08:42 pm (UTC)I watch episodes of Doctor Who with William Hartnell and remember that Hartnell and many of the other actors lived through the Blitz. Even in something as silly as Are You Being Served?, you have characters who were old enough to have fought (young Mr. Grace, Mr. Grainger, Captain Peacock) and others who remember the war or its aftermath from childhood (Mrs. Slocomb). It's very present even in such a comedic context.
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Date: 2010-01-30 02:59 am (UTC)Growing up I lived very close to a military base. They would test-blow the air raid siren every day at noon. The Saturday afternoon after watching The Day After on Friday night when it went off I was completely freaked. Shortly after that I started a VHS collection of every nuclear war movie I could find, and related material. I was riding the bus to school reading CD ( Civil Defense ) manuals while others were dancing to Duran Duran.
Still, nothing I have found is more disturbing than "Threads". Anyone who is sensitive/triggery to such things should avoid it.
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Date: 2010-01-30 05:41 am (UTC)That was in 1984.
*shudder*
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