Also, Ethan is SUCH a wtf character. His main motivation seems to be boredom or being an irritant and I still can't tell if the way he's written is clever and smart or really craptastic gay stereotyping. But I care. A lot. The whole Ethan/Giles backstory, whatever it may be, interests me the same way the idea of Lucius + team Slytherin during their Hogwarts years interests me.
Also the current Xander/Willow situation? Breaking my heart. I keep wondering to myself if they feel grownup in the misery of their little non-affair.
And Angel's demise (such as it was)? Yes, very CoE, but hard to have an emotional response to when the guy later gets his own series, so you know it's not a permanent death.
Now I'm not going to L.A. for acting (upcoming trip is mostly fun and perhaps vaguely useful on some writerly fronts), but a lot of things going on in my life here in NYC right now is sort of the equivalent of going to L.A., in that they are a Big Deal and I don't know if I'm ready yet and no one really asked me to do these things, I just sort of banged on some doors really loudly and got people to do what I want.
But, you know, what if they think I'm a silly little girl who doesn't know what she really looks or sounds like? Industry people always thing chicks are in this business to be beautiful and then, from there, tell them they can't be in the industry because they are not beautiful in certain right ways. I know what I am.
I'm more than happy to play dying junkie whores, the undead, monsters and about anything else you want to throw at me.
Help me make enough money, and I'll buy the smile you want. But I am tense tense tense for a whole lot of mansplaining about my looks that I am NOT interested in. For those new to here an agent once asked me if I spoke French and when I inquired as to why he said, "in France, you'd actually be attractive."
Also, the correct response to this is not to tell me I'm beautiful. The correct response to this, if you feel impelled, is to tell me I have the force to be paid attention to regardless of the batshittery of this industry and the fact that I happen to have tits.
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:42 pm (UTC)Have you ever seen I &hearts Huckabees? Nowadays it's probably best remembered for the behind-the-scenes video of Lily Tomlin's and director David O. Russell's epic screaming match. Anyway, there's a scene where Isabelle Huppert and Jason Schwartzman are in a bog, smearing each other with mud and making out, which really brought home to me that an actor may have to be willing to do anything.
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:45 pm (UTC)It says so much.
I wish I'd had it in some discussions I was in a few years ago...
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:51 pm (UTC)But! I am pretty sure Ethan's meant to be a chaos-worshipper, therefore he has the advantage, as a villainy device, of not really needing a proper motivation outside of "boredom" and "annoying Giles".
Are you planning to watch Buffy S4 and Angel S1 correspondingly? (i.e. Buffy ep, Angel ep, Buffy ep, Angel ep.) I mean, assuming you've thought about it yet at all. A lot of the episodes mirror each other thematically or have plot carry over from one to the other, though that's only true for that season pair, then Angel goes and does its own thing.
Also, I think you definitely have the force to be paid attention to, and I think you're beautiful, so there.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:10 pm (UTC)Ooo, really? That'll make it easier for me --I've been doing the back and forth and I'm a disc away from finishing both, but stuck at college since no one I know has Angel. If I could *just* watch the Buffy after I finish this season, I'd get done a lot faster. (Even if I do love Angel (the show, not the character) more)
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:55 pm (UTC)Though I may now want to emigrate to Canada. Or France. Or the UK.
I haven't seen Band Candy, so I don't know your specific example, but I think I understand the phenomenon you mean, where acting has to diverge entirely from self-consciousness and things that one would be uncomfortable with if one weren't currently someone else. Hm.
Hooray new kitty!
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:55 pm (UTC)Anyway, premise of episode -- all teh adults revert to surly oversexed teens.
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:58 pm (UTC)Whomever these NYC big hats may be, just throw your best Jack at them and you will be fine.
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Date: 2010-02-15 04:59 pm (UTC)The French are renowed for their good taste ;) This is such a bizarre, backhanded thing to say. I must admit though I kind of like the idea that somewhere, everyone is attractive. You, though - most places.
The Xander/Willow thing makes me want to say things about things you haven't got to yet. I found it really hard to watch just for the potential for hurt there, and I love Xander/Cordy, and while I empathise with Xander *a lot* and I love the character, there are many many times when I just want to kick him in the nuts and tell him to grow up and look at what he has, right here, right now, and this was one of those times.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:15 pm (UTC)Yes, dear god, this...
Xander has always been that guy I really wanted to like, because he was part of the gang, but I seriously disliked the way he treated his friends for the fact that he was a guy surrounded by girls who did things better than him... it irked me...
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:11 pm (UTC)You know, I was thinking about you the other day as an actor, and depending on union affiliations and production budgets and so forth, I would definitely want you to audition for a part in my play "Loving Cassie." The next time I have a production up, I will let you know.
The batshittery is totally crazy--my only hope is that NYC does NOT turn into La-La-Land. But you can handle it and more, and I think you will/do impress the suits with everything that you are.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:14 pm (UTC)I'm not supposed to do non-union work, but can do Equity showcases in a way that's cheap for EQuity producers since they don't have to give me the EQuity benefits/stipends. It's convoluted.
And I'd love to audition for you.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:12 pm (UTC)In "Band Candy" we see that he's a jerk-for-hire at this point; my sense is he'd take a job like that if it sounded like fun, and if it gave him a chance to needle Giles.
I do think there's a strong Ethan/Giles implication. In "The Dark Age" it's implied that he and Giles and the other members of their group enjoyed sexual shenanigans ("orgies" is the word), and there's just so much intimacy in the way Sachs and Head play with each other.
I don't find Ethan a gay stereotype, probably because everything I've ever seen Robin Sachs in, he's seemed a bit fey and often whimsical. Okay, not so much as the lizard guy in Galaxy Quest, but other than that...
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:30 pm (UTC)I do like his whimsy. It what makes me keep coming back to the character/performance and being interested.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:13 pm (UTC)Now I was better equipped to handle the grief, back then... not so much.
Back in the day I didn't see Etahn as gay... though now it's pretty glaring. I pretty much saw the queer with the incestuous vampires and with... other characters that I'll talk about when you talk about 'em.
Oh mansplaining... bleh.
If I may ask, why are you looking to to a genetic genealogy?
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:16 pm (UTC)Both sides of my family come from places that were conquered over and over again by people from different continents. Odds are, and if family lore is to be believed, my background is incredibly mixed and complex, and I'm curious, now that we have the technology so put proof to that or no.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:15 pm (UTC)The chart depresses the hell out of me.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:18 pm (UTC)Having watched Buffy for the first time only a in the last year? Yes... though because *she* believed in the demise, I still responded to it.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:37 pm (UTC)That genealogy thing is so cool. I've looked into it before, but at my income level there's just no way I could justify spending the money. I hope you find out something fascinating!
ETA: Yay for the new kitty! Be sure to post updates.
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Date: 2010-02-15 05:50 pm (UTC)Was waiting for you to get to Band Candy. I need to go look at an index of episodes so I can anticipate some of my other favorite eps. This is like you reading about me watching TW and Dr. Who.
I'm making myself say nothing, which is hard.
I love love love Lafayette. Just sayin.
I'm pretty sure I've already said you're beautiful. Also striking, and if I haven't mentioned, strong, kick-ass, and brilliant.
Thanks for posting the geneology thing. I may do it. Since I found out my dad wasn't my biological father, and since my mom has dementia now and I can't find out the true story, something like this might give me some clue.
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Date: 2010-02-15 10:36 pm (UTC)He is more than his gold lame' pants.
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Date: 2010-02-15 06:02 pm (UTC)Also, new kitty! *strokes her from afar*
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Date: 2010-02-15 06:20 pm (UTC)Wow. WOW. I knew that the Hollywood/acting/entertainment industry was harsh to women, but never having had an inside line before, I didn't realize HOW harsh. Someone said that to your face??
My hat is off to you for having the spine and self-assuredness to keep acting and keep yourself out there because it sounds like you get piled on MUCH WORSE than women in the workaday world do.
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Date: 2010-02-15 06:23 pm (UTC)I also regularly get told to lose weight. While I believe I could always be in better shape (so not about numbers, but distribution or strength), I'm 5'6" and weight 110lbs (which isn't quite as extremely thin as it sounds since I'm ridiculously small boned). I wear a size 4. Which is too big in a lot of cases. It's absurd. It's also the thing that's casually said to get someone out of the office when people don't want to be bothered to give a real "no."
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Date: 2010-02-15 11:21 pm (UTC)It took until college for it to occur to me that I could possibly be interested in women because what the industry considers beautiful doesn't interest me. Force of personality does.
Will the industry recognize this? Don't know. Do you have the force to have people pay attention to you? You bet.
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Date: 2010-02-15 11:30 pm (UTC)Of course, I was watching from the perspective of a mother of a tween. While I identified with Willow (she was me 20 years ago), I also identified with Giles and Joyce because they were closer to who I was at that point. Now that my tween is 17, I understand Joyce a great deal more.
The article on mammograms and dementia was excellent. My mother (age 64) doesn't get them. She's at the point in her life where she's marking time until death. She doesn't care how it comes. But she works with the elderly and the mentally ill and sees how detrimental tests they don't understand are to their well-being.