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Anti-gay California politician
Date: 2010-03-04 03:56 pm (UTC)N.
Re: Anti-gay California politician
Date: 2010-03-04 05:08 pm (UTC)The article was suggesting that what will be most effective in true sea change is showing success-as-they-define-it won in models other than theirs, on a personal level. Families with visible lasting loving relationships (married or not), healthy kids with good grades, that sort of thing. Showing them that everyone's a sinner just feeds into the existing model.
Re: Anti-gay California politician
Date: 2010-03-04 10:47 pm (UTC)*nods* that makes much sense. That's one of the reason that I'm looking forward to the end of DADT - I'm fairly anti-military, but conservatives usually respect soldiers, and having the occasional decorated soldier who is also openly queer, and possibly even married will cause some people to question their ideas.
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Date: 2010-03-04 04:18 pm (UTC)The day IE6 drops from our supported browser list on our contracts is the day we're all getting savagely liquored up and will be dancing naked in the streets.
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Date: 2010-03-04 06:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-04 04:38 pm (UTC)::headdesk::
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Date: 2010-03-04 04:40 pm (UTC)The ONLY redeeming feature that man has is that he has kept "B-1" Bob Dornan out of office in my district.
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Date: 2010-03-04 05:38 pm (UTC)I was raised Southern Baptist, and their view on things is that everyone is tempted constantly by the devil. (Although I did have a pastor once say that in most cases, we were so weak that it was only minor demons working on us-we weren't even special enough to get the devil's attention.)
Anyway, a lot of born again Christians believe the world is a constant source of sin and temptation. They won't think in terms of "this guy is closeted" but "the devil tempted him with alcohol and sex with a man." And then they relate that to whatever they personally are tempted by, and forgive him. Because they're all being tempted. The vast majority of them don't believe that gayness is part of someone's identity, so it's only sin. And all sins are equal (or supposed to be).
So his religious base, for the most part, will forgive him, except for the few who realize they've been burned too many times.
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Date: 2010-03-04 08:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-04 05:55 pm (UTC)Christianity is a very confusing religion.
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Date: 2010-03-04 07:22 pm (UTC)All I see coming of that is the exact same arguments I saw for Publishers Weekly's all-male best books: What, you want a quota or something? All the best roles just happened to be performed by men!
It's a nice idea and all, but deeply unrealistic.
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Date: 2010-03-05 02:24 am (UTC)One specific reason that I'd appreciate a "Best Lead Performer" award from somebody is that, not being much a movie buff, I never know which Lead Actress nominations are actually from films that are about women. Frex, when Halle Berry won for her lead in Monster's Ball, did she really lead or is it a movie about men and she just made Billy Bob Thornton and the rest look extra shiny?
Re: same-sex marriage in DC
Date: 2010-03-04 10:36 pm (UTC)*blink*
Okay, THAT'S surprising - unless there's something I don't quite understand about how these interactions go (which might easily be true.)
Digging turned up this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/02/AR2010030201811.html
So it sounds like there's a tradition of deferring to local government and he didn't want to go against it. Hmm.
Re: same-sex marriage in DC
Date: 2010-03-05 02:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-04 10:41 pm (UTC)I'd love to see figures on the percentage of openly anti-LGBT politicians who have been found to be closet cases. I suspect that even just the stats on the % who have been caught would be fairly large.
the AFA's post about how the killer whale that killed should be stoned to death.
Wow, those people are not just vile, they are actually completely insane.
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Date: 2010-03-05 12:45 am (UTC)While I don't take scripture as a source for legal advice, what I got from the article was a relatively sane "If an animal you own kills someone, it's your responsibility to put it down." It's funnier to say they called for stoning a whale, but it's not actually what I read in the article.
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