"Last week the Independent ran a feature with the exciting headline 'I was a hooker who became an agony aunt'. Sounded fascinating. Another tart with a heart story, perhaps?
No, reading the piece indicated the headline was wrong.
The feature described blogger and sex writer Zoe Margolis, better known as the Girl with a One Track Mind. It focused in part on Margolis work as an ambassador for sexual health charity Brook, raising issues about sex and relationships with young people.
Zoe Margolis is not, and has never been, a sex worker."
Apparently, this facts vs. opinions confusion is making other people really frustrated too. Via
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:12 pm (UTC)more earthquakes lately or more coverage of earthquakes?
I get the impression, possibly slightly more earthquakes, but certainly more coverage of them.
Outrage fatigue combined with low expectations of the American military/inudistrial complex, I greatly fear.
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:21 pm (UTC)If you scroll down to the table of data for the last 10 years, you'll see that the overall number of earthquakes is roughly constant. The totals vary from ~22k to ~32k per year, but most of the noise is down in the 3rd and 4th magnitude area. There've been 13 mag 8 or greater earthquakes in the last 10 years. 2007 had four of those. No other year had more than two.
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:29 pm (UTC)You can have an opinion about a fact, but it doesn't change the actual fact, Mr.
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:34 pm (UTC)It ought to be obvious, but it often isn't, even to the person expressing that opinion. Possibly this is an educational quirk of mine, but I tend interpret judgements of good and bad as reflecting on wider artistic/cultural merit rather than personal enjoyment (ie sometimes I can see something is good and still not personally like it, just as I can sometimes see things are, objectively, quite bad, and yet still enjoy them). In that sense, I do read a distinction between someone saying "I didn't like X" and someone saying "X is no good".
This is all semantics, obviously, but then I like semantics better than food, love and people ;)
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:36 pm (UTC)I am, however, as I mentioned elsewhere, wary of saying "in my opinion" because anything I say automatically has reduced authority in most settings because I am female-bodied. Minimizing my words by reminding people they are merely my opinion doesn't get me what I want. Of course, the fact that I'm pretty good at getting what I want is why I tend to rub people the wrong way as much as I do.
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Date: 2010-03-16 04:08 pm (UTC)That's only in cases where I feel there's no... gah, how do I put it, importance to being right?
"Lost is the best show ever in the history of ever." (Doesn't bother me.)
"Stephen Moffat is just a better writer than Russell T. Davies." (Kind of gets under my skin because it sounds close enough to a statement of objective fact that if I disagree or have different taste, I feel like I have to call you a liar.)
"That is an offensive thing to say." (Same level of absolutism, but as it is important and you really do want to challenge anyone's reality who disagrees, I stand by it and it doesn't bug me.)
I don't tend to use "in my opinion," but the couple of people I know who don't add qualifiers or some kind of room for the fact that people disagree tend to be prone to making me feel mansplained* or run over by the force of their opinion.
You don't make me feel mansplained. You have found some more elegant way of including that space for disagreement. I applaud this.
* I really don't like "mansplained" because it is a group stereotype pejorative and I'm really trying to avoid those. Does anyone have a less inflammatory short term for this kind of jerkiness?
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Date: 2010-03-16 04:40 pm (UTC)I agree it does take a certain amount of linguistic elegance and care to be able to express yourself with certainty but without 'splaining. It's interesting how people sometimes respond to that, though; there seems to be an inherent suspicion in some circles of people who argue well, like there's something manipulative about it (which - hi politicians and the press! - not entirely unfounded). I have no sympathy with anti-intellectualism, but at the same time, I think this relates to
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Date: 2010-03-16 09:15 pm (UTC)Oh man, there's a guy I used to hang out with who was incapable of grokking that distinction, especially when it came to any kind of artistic endeavor — music, movies, books, anything. I'd say, "[X] is not my thing," and he simply could not believe that I wasn't trying to find a polite way to say, "X stinks on toast."
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Date: 2010-03-16 11:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 11:09 pm (UTC)I would like to say that on the subject of CoE, I have absolutely, positively had people explicitly tell me that I didn't like it, when I've absolutely, positively, have said that I did. And it's like "what just happened there?"
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Date: 2010-03-16 11:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 03:37 pm (UTC)Earthquakes
Date: 2010-03-16 03:44 pm (UTC)The USGS was an early adopter of twitter, and I remember looking at their updates and truly realizing how much the earth was shaking all the time. Then, as twitter grew in popularity, people would auto-retweet anything that shook greater than a 4.0. Mostly it was only California getting the attention. "Another city in the desert trembles, yawn."
But after a few well places news stories about how twitter was spreading the word on what happened and where with regard to geological events, then people really wanted to be the first to spread the news (more retweeting).
So, whenever there's an earthquake of even minor regard, "Earthquake" trends on twitter, and the rich get richer because people want to know: Earthquake? Where?
And this "paid off" in that we actually had major earthquakes this year.
I have the same theory about Gun violence. The ability to easily report on minor, yet devastating, news allows it to get repeated, and thus, noticed, far more.
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:46 pm (UTC)Bah, I remember someone tried to argue with me that post-modernism was wrong because it allowed opinion to over-throw fact. They used the example of is being "objective" that humans can't fly. I really did my best to simply reply "No, it's a fact that humans can't fly unassisted". I dunno, what was happening there.
But this really relates to the whole matter of disbelief of women, children, people of colour, disabled people, queers and everyone else who doesn't have the cultural currency to "create" facts.
I do my best not to do the "in my opinion" thing, because as you say it reduces my authority which is already reduced due to gender and age (being a young woman in her 20's doesn't convey a whole lot of authority).
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Date: 2010-03-16 03:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 03:58 pm (UTC)And, because so many topics now are so complicated that 'fact' can be swung based on the particular set of statistics you're using (and how you manipulate them etc), we've also become suspicoius of 'facts', plus, so many authority figures have been flat out lying lately (weapons of mass destruction, death panels, government takeover, socialism, I will get rid of DADT) that we've become suspicous of anyone who makes any factual claim.
And, in the US at least, facts have become unimportant in comparison to emotional truths, which are not based on fact at all.
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Date: 2010-03-16 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 04:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 05:07 pm (UTC)People can't tell the difference between a review and a critique, either. *sighs*
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Date: 2010-03-16 05:14 pm (UTC)The Broadway fault running most of the length of Manhattan. And three across it. One of them at 204th/Dykeman Street. I use to live up there and remember after some article in the Daily News after a big quake somewhere. Might have been the World Series quake in SF years ago.
Even felt one while I lived there. Early one Sunday morning, a 1.3 or 1.4.
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Date: 2010-03-16 05:27 pm (UTC)This would've been around '98 or so. My dad and I took off for a few days to Disneyland (I used to live in San Fran, so a 6-hour drive), just the two of us. (We'd been as a family a few years previous.) On our last night there, around 2:30am, there was a sizable quake, a 7.0 if I recall right, about 100 miles east. Dad felt it, woke up, and tried to rouse me, but I was a sound sleeper (and still am).
So Dad turned on the news to get reports and see whether we would have to do anything crazy like evacuate the hotel (we didn't). All the local news outlets were on the story, of course. Except...there was no story. No buildings collapsed, no people were killed. The big stories were potential minor gas leaks, dishes falling off walls, and a train that went slightly off the tracks, injuring a few people.
Yet the news stations kept covering the non-story, because none could afford (for PR purposes) to be the first to break away. "There's nothing to report, really...but we will stay with you JUST IN CASE something breaks." It was quite amusing to watch these reporters trying to cover the story that wasn't there.
I'm not sure what the point of that was, except that I like telling the story, and the coverage of disasters is certainly nothing new--but there's more now than there was before, for all the reasons others have stated above.
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Date: 2010-03-16 07:06 pm (UTC)It kinda sucks the way they do it though - my sister got a nasty surprise when she received a check for 0.00 after initiation dues. Much different from AGVA which will take a percentage until the balance is met.
~j
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Date: 2010-03-16 07:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 08:12 pm (UTC)And that initiation policy may be the only category where AGVA does not suck. In the decade or so that I've been a member I've found them to be completely anemic when dealing with Disney (which is where most of the West Coast AGVAs perform).
I don't even know where to start.
Part of the problem is that there are very few performers who are around for the long haul - because no one comes to California to spend their whole lives performing in Anaheim - the company is only just starting to be supportive of the notion, but they also encourage folks to move on by pulling crap like, for instance, in a show that runs 7 days a week, with performers required to work 25 hours/week to qualify for minimal benefits, casting 7 people in 1 day slots (Which happened most recently with the last incarnation of the High School Musical show).
So the performers have a tendency to be much more involved with their SAG or AFTRA contracts, or to a limited extent AEA - if they're politically minded at all - because here's no incentive to stick around longer than a couple of years. So when contract renewal negotiations come around there is very little tribal memory of what went on before, which makes negotiations go rather poorly for our side... so things like grandfathering get voted in, which gives the company even more incentive to shuffle the veterans out.
I don't know how much sense I'm making here, I have a tendency to get a bit wound up on the subject.
I'll leave you with one other example of why AGVA sucks. We don't have working dues, instead we have quarterly dues which are assessed on the work you did in the previous year. If you're diligent enough to sock this money away when you're making it, awesome. But if you're like most of the people on the planet, then you're gonna get a $248 bill based on the full time work you did a year ago, when you might be working less than 1 day per month as a sub and hustling other gigs wherever you can.
So, yeah. It's frustrating, and it's a big part of why people try to avoid getting sucked into it for very long out here.
All that said, I've always maintained that the performance parts of the job are awesome. 100% fun, and a big reason why people are willing to let themselves get sucked into it for very long.
It's the backstage B.S. that sucks, just like everywhere else.
~j
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Date: 2010-03-16 09:15 pm (UTC)And HOLY FUCK the SAG initiation dues are that high now? I think it was like $1300 when I joined. I'm AEA eligible if I get own the damn paperwork and should probably deal with that chunk of change too, but the whole thing just sucks. That said, what I should really do is just use my next residuals check to take care of one of those (AFTRA OR AEA) things as opposed to being all "ooooo, shopping."
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Date: 2010-03-16 07:52 pm (UTC)Not always. It can depend on the person that you are dealing with. I have to deal with people who generate " facts " that are nothing but converted opinions - because what they think is 'right'.
For example when people tell me " Gays are bad - the bible says so therefore it's a fact" I say no. That's an opinion based on a narrow interpretation of a book that's been translated - re-translated, edited and re-written at the whim of kings, theologists or anyone who wants to take a crack at it.
What makes a fact for a person like yourself - who deals in facts and the accurate reporting of them , or myself when I 'show my work' by citing sources is quite different from facts as delivered by people who are more passionate than accurate when they state things as fact.
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Date: 2010-03-16 08:06 pm (UTC)This digs at me because I fully support legalized prostitution on many fronts - both educational , social, and from a human rights perspective.
When I say human rights, part of that is that a person should be able to enjoy legal protection against discrimination or undue influence if they choose to work in the sex industry - no more "pimps" or forced prostitution rings.
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Date: 2010-03-16 08:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-16 11:20 pm (UTC)I once had someone "accuse" me of not being a biological female because of the way I express myself online (yeah, this person was rather transphobic), which surprised me, because I'm very aware that I often moderate the modality of my statements with "probably", "maybe", etc (which is something that women are socialised to do far more than men).
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Date: 2010-03-16 11:56 pm (UTC)Having typed that, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Date: 2010-03-17 01:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-17 12:38 am (UTC)http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/ and http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/N_America.php show a lot of quakes.
I think both the geologists to a small extent and the non-Californians are worried that these indicate a few more 5-6 quakes are on the way as things re-align, plus possible increased volcanic and tsunami activity as well.
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Date: 2010-03-17 02:13 am (UTC)