Back when I was in Forget Me Not, my role was as one of the two dressing room dancers. Myself and the male dressing room dancer were partially dressed, like we were midway though getting ready for an evening out. We were in the theater's dressing room and we'd wait for patrons to come in, put albums on the old 1970s-style turntable and dance with them, whispering stories in their ears. It was awkward and intimate, and we each danced with patrons of all genders, and only a very, very few were rude and/or groped us. But it was a very draining show (since, you know, later we had to put audience members in coffins and wheel them out of the theater), and we worried about it a lot. I'm flabberghasted that people are being so boorish about this art show.
In brief:
- Writing slash or not has no bearing on whether you are homophobic or not.
- Liking slash or not has no bearing on whether you are homophobic or not.
- Equating slash with Real Queer People or Real Queer Narratives is dodgy at best. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
- Writing and/or liking slash may or may not mean you've strayed into the fetishization of queer people, something that has a negative impact on queer people. These issues are not clear cut. At all. And asking them to be, from any side of the discussion, is problematic.
- While fiction of all sorts can be used to examine social issues and can be a form of activism, it is not an automatic free pass to being a Big Gay Hero or a Big Hero for Gays.
- People don't decide to be trans.
- Equating someone's gender identity with (inappropriate and uncool) pressure you may be feeling in fandom to be a slasher is uncool.
- "I'm not homophobic, but..." is never a way to win whatever argument you think you're about to be having.
How many times are we going to have to have this conversation, oh Internets?
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Date: 2010-04-19 08:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-19 12:18 pm (UTC)"What's Crazy Charlie decided to be this week?"
"Last I checked, she's an Otaku-kin man-trapped-in-lesbian-body reincarnated Babylonian deity who is also Hermione's soul twin. But I don't check that often."
"Oh, so the trisexual dragon Avatar-person thing is over?"
"Dragon fetishist yes, not sure about Avatar."
"Wow. Charlie sure is entertaining from a safe distance, huh."
Odds aren't *that* high that this is what the secret poster meant, but I'm sure we all at least know of That Person.
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Date: 2010-04-19 12:45 pm (UTC)Here's a tip. Even if your friend does do that sort of thing all the time, that's not an excuse to disrespect their stated gender identity or anyone else's.
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Date: 2010-04-19 12:52 pm (UTC)Nor did you need to get up in my case about it; it was, dare I say it, a little disrespectful.
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Date: 2010-04-19 01:05 pm (UTC)If you're okay with that, then great. But you can't claim to respect trans people at the same time.
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Date: 2010-04-19 06:14 pm (UTC)And I can claim to respect transfolk and their difficulties (And love, love how all y'all are jumping in this without knowing my own possible gender difficulties, by the way).
I can be *polite* to someone - that is, use the preferred pronoun and treat them as their stated gender - without actually respecting their opinions or their choices. And "opinions and choices" which is where I would classify faux-trans attention-seekers, rather than "respect the process of coming out as trans and/or transitioning" which I'd reserve for the real deal folks.
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Date: 2010-04-19 07:11 pm (UTC)When I was in my twenties, I enthusiastically embraced a series of fairly radical identity changes (religious conversions, for example) that ultimately I withdrew from, feeling I had failed. Looking back on it, I think that had everything to do with my repressed trans-ness. I was looking for something that would allow me to feel comfortable in my own skin, to feel like I fit. It wasn't until years later that I began to accept that my skin, or in other words my body, was itself the problem. By your standards, I guess I'm a faux-trans attention-seeker, instead of, you know, someone who had difficulty accepting a truth about myself that's hugely frowned out by society-at-large. Someone who had feelings that the general culture insisted couldn't be real, and who therefore doubted those feelings for THIRTY YEARS.
You might want to rethink how you define "respect."
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Date: 2010-04-20 05:00 am (UTC)The very fact that you feel it is your place to judge whether or not someone is "really" trans or not hurts ALL TRANS PEOPLE. It hurts the "real" trans people you claim to respect.
And I do not care what your "gender difficulties" may be. Even if you are trans yourself, that does not change the fact that your behaviour and attitude is harmful and hurtful to other trans people.
So if you want to be an asshole, that's totally up to you. But own it. Stop concern trolling and pretending that it's anything other than being an asshole.
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Date: 2010-04-19 01:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-19 06:20 pm (UTC)See above re: the difference between respect and polite behavior.
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Date: 2010-04-20 03:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-19 12:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-19 10:33 pm (UTC)