Patty's response? "But there's less kidnapping, rape and song fic!"
I thought I was gonna die laughing.
Because what do I have to say to you about Ianto? I'm still back at "identifying with the dude in love with the guy that dies is a Really Horrible Experience." And in a lot of ways that's not only all that needs to be said, it's all that I'm willing to say. Sums up the weird and the awful and the character deficiencies (or utter fineness, depending on your perspective) of my nature.
But Wesley? I want him to be okay. I'm rooting for him. I want life to be good to him because someone should give a crap, and because he's more than a little like me. When he got shot in one of last night's episodes, I made this noise and Patty put her hand on my leg, and I thought "oh, this must be how other people feel about Ianto." When Ianto got in dangerous situations on Torchwood, I never worried about him, not until the end; he'd handle himself. Part of my mechanism of reaction to the character was a certain faith in him. But the mechanism of my reaction to Wesley is different. I don't trust him to handle himself and I don't trust people to care for him the way I think he should be cared for.
It's interesting for me to compare and contrast. Because I think my response to Ianto is much weirder and harder to talk about, but when I puzzle this out, it's my response to Wesley that I intellectually think is the more ridiculous. After all, he's a big boy and someone else was writing him.
Also! This is hell! That could have failed so hard, and actually worked! And Wolfram & Harts 75 year review thing is HILARIOUS.
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Date: 2010-05-02 03:04 pm (UTC)ETA: Also, I said it on Twitter and I'll say it here: Charisma Carpenter HASN'T AGED A DAY WTF.
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Date: 2010-05-02 03:04 pm (UTC)Can't tell if her acting is really that bad, or if it's intentionally like that for the video. She's essentially playing Cordelia...but stiffer.
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Date: 2010-05-02 05:58 pm (UTC)I work at an upscale grocery, waiting on mainly well-off liberals. I've noticed that while these are lovely people, they well celebrate anything.
They bought all our fresh Gulf shrimp and oysters. Because they aren't expecting any more for *years*.
These are the same people who had wine and cheese parties when Katrina hit. And then went to the centers where people were being kept and volunteered. I can't get a handle on them.
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Date: 2010-05-02 07:59 pm (UTC)Didn't they call McVeigh a " Domestic Terrorist " in the media?
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Date: 2010-05-02 10:16 pm (UTC)That he managed to get a parking space on Times Square on a Saturday night.
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Date: 2010-05-03 09:36 am (UTC)You would think a cop would have noticed the car earlier from being parked illegally.
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Date: 2010-05-03 12:25 am (UTC)I recreated the first one to post on my LJ and would be happy to lj message anyone with the coding if
they would like to re-post it on their journals.
Re: Charisma. I could have lived forever without having seen that commercial. It's almost like Cordy when she first moved to LA--chasing down auditions. It made me sad. I liked her character a great deal on Angel (even though I disliked it when she cut her hair D:)
Re - Wesly --
You Said After all, he's a big boy and someone else was writing him..
Yes, that's true, but as you have pointed out there are quite a lot of parallels, as though someone *ahem* was in some way paraphrasing/adapting? Just sayin'.
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Date: 2010-05-03 02:02 pm (UTC)I can love and response to Wesley's character the way I do because of Ianto, because of the one "I" couldn't save, because I know that no matter how much this arc rips me apart, I'm not going to feel guilty at the end of it.
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Date: 2010-05-03 02:09 pm (UTC)I'm also at a weird point now, where I'm starting to feel able to hear and appreciate the arguments of people who liked CoE at bit more than I have been in the past -- so you saying this here is good for me in that way, although that's a weird sort of personal thing that I can't really articulate properly.
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Date: 2010-05-04 04:47 am (UTC)You and Patty can laugh, but the winter of my senior year of high school was one long, horrible piece of Counting Crows songfic. *facepalm*
I should not have watched that Butterfinger thing in bed. Can't sleep. Charisma Carpenter's career will eat me.
The car bomb thing made me groan (in a worried, WTF sort of way) for pretty much exactly the reason you mention. Also, as described, it sounds like the least effective attempt at mayhem ever. That suggests to me that the culprit isn't any sort of trained operative. So.