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Date: 2010-06-18 01:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 02:09 pm (UTC)N.
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Date: 2010-06-18 01:34 pm (UTC)That best friends story...
It seems like another way to protect kids from the inevitable hurt that occurs when best friends "break up", or hurt one another or one outgrows the other. But it's a valuable lesson about navigating relationship dynamics and loyalty.
Agree with the psychologist who says that you can't shelter kids from "normal social pain" -- not the same thing as being bullied or treated poorly by a clique, but it's natural for many people to have a bestie. Sometimes it'll end in tears, just like romantic relationships do when you grow up.
But it's really good to know someone's got your back.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 02:08 pm (UTC)TOTALLY.
And also the medicalization of being female. I was out to lunch with two women I was pregnant with. They both told me how "brave" I was for having a homebirth. I told them they were brave to go to the hospital. Both of them ended up with C-sections.
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Date: 2010-06-19 05:18 am (UTC)I've become ideological, but initially, when I was choosing to have an intervention-free birth, it was entirely because what I read convinced me that it was safer and more likely to be successful (i.e. end up without a drugged baby, a major gut wound, and a failed breastfeeding relationship) than with a medicalized birth.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:18 pm (UTC)I feel like an idiot now. I never realized they had a center in NYC, I thought it was all in Ithaca.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:38 pm (UTC)I finished Stealers of Dreams and Only Human. I'm still holding off on reading The Deviant Strain because I have a strong premonition it's going to suck.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:47 pm (UTC)Marsters draped over the cross is even more interesting when you know that he is the son of a minister.
Marsters' first and second TV gigs were on the great show "Northern Exposure". In the first he played a bell hop, but in the second, he had a much meatier roll as an Episcopal minister. ("Grosse Pointe 48230", 4th season) Here are some pics http://www.ebay.com/ He had a couple of really great scenes with Rob Morrow.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:48 pm (UTC)From the article supporting teasing (which they state is different than bullying):
Hierarchies have many benefits — the smooth division of labor and resources, protecting weaker members of the group — but they can be deadly to negotiate. Male fig wasps chop their rivals in half with their large mandibles. Narwhal males loll about with tusk tips embedded in their jaws — vestiges of their status contests. Coyotes engage in heavily coded bouts of play; those who don’t live shorter, ostracized lives.
Given the perils of negotiating rank, many species have evolved dramatized status contests, relying on symbolic displays of physical size and force to peacefully sort out who’s on top. Stags roar. Frogs croak. Chimps throw branches around. Hippos open their jaws as wide as possible to impress competitors.
And humans tease. Teasing can be thought of as a status contest with a twist. As humans evolved the ability to form complex alliances, the power of a single individual came increasingly to depend on the ability to build strong bonds. Power became a matter of social intelligence (the good of the group) rather than of survival of the fittest (raw strength). As a status contest, teasing must walk a fine line, designating status while enhancing social connection.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:53 pm (UTC)There is a fantastic sci-fi book called "City of Truth" by James Morrow that deals with a society where people are "programmed" to be incapable of lying, and fiction, art and makeup are considered lies.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:03 pm (UTC)Why can't they just get to be, you know, kids? Rather than lifestyle accessories for their parents.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:05 pm (UTC)Gay Walmart Employee Forced To Wear Identifying Clothes
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:11 pm (UTC)The best friends article is so absurd. I would have gone (more) insane in high school without my best friend. That adults are trying to break up childrens' close friendships is pretty tragic, actually--the teenage years are hard enough without adults trying to destroy the few things that bring you a bit of happiness. :(
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:11 pm (UTC)There's something about him that makes me forget that he's a genuinely good actor if I go too long without seeing him actually act. I feel inclined to be snarky about him despite my respect and love.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 03:26 pm (UTC)How can they think it's a matter of possessiveness? It's a matter of security and knowing there's always one person who speaks your language, at a time when your parents seem like TOTAL ALIENS.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:34 pm (UTC)I stopped reading parenting info a long freaking time ago because too much of it sounded bogus. Stop you kids from having best buds? WTF? Your best buds are the only thing that get you through middle school without killing someone or yourself. Who else do you bitch to about how awful your family is? Your therapist?
My job as a parent is to help my kid become a decent person. One who will do her best to get a job, pay her taxes, be reasonably law abiding, vote, be a good friend, and eat her vegetables. (It's all about the vegetables.) It's not to protect them from life's bumps. It's to give her a safe space to process life's bumps so that when we're gone or too far away she can cope on her own with the help of her buds.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-06-18 04:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-19 08:21 am (UTC)I think it's possible to have multiple best friends, I have one from college and one from high school and while I connect with them in different ways, I love them both deeply. I had a small group of close friends throughout school, though the members of that group changed considerably between ages 8 and 18. The group in middle school was a few of us banding together out of necessity, but probably helped keep me sane.
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Date: 2010-06-18 04:59 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-06-18 06:08 pm (UTC)also, the stealers of dreams gave me some really messed up nightmares, but i still think it's a good read. which may say something about my taste in literature, but whatevs.
and finally, i think i would die if i didn't have my bestfriend. from a mix of boredom and acute loniless. and lack of fun.
bestfriends = middle school life line.
usa must want its middleschoolers dead...
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Date: 2010-06-18 07:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 08:26 pm (UTC)Ooooh, allow me to comment on this one from both a patient and a female physician perspective (sorry to hijack your LJ, but this may take a while.)
My personal perspective as someone who sought care from a certified nurse midwife (CMN) during both of my two pregnancies. So a little compare and contrast from anecdotal experience as both a patient and medical provider. Going on the record to point out that these opinions are strictly mind and may or may not be endorsed by any medical academy (including the one I belong to.)
Let me preface that I am talking about CNM's here--master's trained nurses who practice out of medical clinics, birthing centers and hospitals. Not to be confused with Lay Midwives that may have little medical training. My midwife rocked.
Midwives view pregnancy as a normal process for a female.
Obstetricians are first and foremost surgeons and tend to view pregnancy as a disease process, assume crash positions and anticipate the worst.
Midwives have a lower c-section rate as well as a signficiantly (as in nearly ZERO) rate of episiotomies (taking a scissors and cutting the woman's perineum to widen the vaginal opening.)
A lot of obstetricians will jump to episotomy, not because there is trouble with the fetus or mother, but merely to speed up the delivery process.
Nurse midwifes are definitely more holistic when it comes to prenatal care and will frequent use diet as a way to control things such as constipation, for example recommending 3 prunes a day to help or suggestion something like lemon water or ginger for morning sickness.
With an obstetrician you are more likely to have pharmacotherapy for these normal conditions of pregnancy. That said, with an OB you are more likely to have an IV placed during labor and be given medications (oxytocin, etc) to speed up contractions.)
Midwives really provide a patient-centric delivery with open options for positioning during delivery such as hands/knees, squatting, laying on one's side, birthing chair, water delivery (which I did!)
While some obstetricians are open to some of these techniques, chances are you are going to be in the classic lithotomy position (feet in stirrups with the doc standing between your knees like a catcher) when the time comes to push.
Like I said, Obstetricians are surgeons by training. If your one diagnostic tool is a blade, there is a good chance you are going to be on the receiving end of it at some point. I know that is a bit of a jaded view. A good middle of the road for those who want the MD tacked behind the name is a Family Physician who has an OB practice. They tend to practice somewhere in between. How a medical provider treats the prenatal process really steered me toward a CMN for my care. As a student I had trained under obstetricians, CMNs and family physicians. I wanted someone who didn't view the process as pathology but rather a normal life process.
Yes, there are fabulous Obstetricians out there. And for every fabulous midwife, I am sure there are crappy ones as well.
I love the concept of Midwife (with woman) for not just obsterical care. I continue to see my midwife for routine care, and a lot of people don't realize they do well woman care as well such as yearly exams.
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Date: 2010-06-18 08:46 pm (UTC)Pretty much every article I read about modern child-rearing horrifies me. I hate to think what my life would have been like if I was growing up in this deeply messed up culture.