[identity profile] folk.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Makes me glad I chug cock.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
The odds of that getting anyone out of the draft I suspect is a lot lower than people think, just based on the conversations I've had with friends and colleagues who were of age during the Viet Nam draft.

[identity profile] folk.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Even with Don't Be A Fag Don't Ask, Don't Tell? I was under the impression that TEH MILRTARY was supposed to kick you out immediately if you're a rugmuncher or shirtlifter.

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they are, and lord knows how this would go, but I know more than one person who was straight forward about that in Viet Name (when the policy was more stringent than that, but effectively the same) and they were like "tough shit" -- in one case I know, the person was able to get out of it by getting a shrin to certify that he was prone to "compulsive" sexual behavior... all annecdotal of course, but talk about a damn fine mess. Also, remember, homosexuality was still defined as a disease then, and isn't now.

[identity profile] 00goddess.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
The military only kicks out queers in time of peace. When there's a war on, especially a war of conscription, they conveniently overlook it- and kick you out when your tour is up.

[identity profile] zangtt.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
A draft would be a great idea. Probably the only way to kick-start the peace movement. The fact that there hasn't been an effective peace movement since the draft ended isn't a surprise to me.

When middle-class kids realize that a war on Iraq might mean that they actually have to go and fight people, rather than sending over poor kids who volunteer to do it for them, perhaps they'll be a lot less sanguine about it.

Wheee!

[identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. A draft is great! Think that will get people's attention away from their stupid movies and their ipods? If it won't, nothing will.

[identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
I recall reading about the age limits being changed as well as targeting people with ' specific skills ' needed.

with those two things combined, and other items you are aware of - I would be eligable too.

Hrm...

[identity profile] sarantha.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I looked at that article and I tried to verify the information independantly and was unable to. I'm wary that it is accurate. I know everyone is afraid or hoping that the gov't will reinstitute the draft but I find the possibility unlikely. It is an unpopular government program and the gov't should realize that. We shall see. I just wish I could verify the validity of this article.

Re: Hrm...

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Article about restaffing draft boards:

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/draft/index_np.html

The bills in Congress as listed in Thomas:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query

So it's perfectly real, and has been kicking around for a while, which could mean a little or a lot, but it's all one more reason for people to be very attentive to this election.

Re: Hrm...

[identity profile] rm.livejournal.com 2004-05-23 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
My bad on those URLs -- here's the PDF at the Government Printing Office via Thomas:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_bills&docid=f:h163ih.txt.pdf

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_bills&docid=f:s89is.txt.pdf