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The New York Times discovers the "girl crush" phenomena and manages not to be completely idiotic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/fashion/thursdaystyles/11CRUSH.html

19th century literature and social conventions are appropriately mentioned and so forth, but wow do I wish we could have a better name for the phenomena, which when termed "girl crush" serves to trivialize friendship the way we constantly do in this "just friends" world. Also, I feel the article really shouldn't attempt to address men at all, because it really leaves out a lot of what is going on in the culture on that front especially if you look at the move from buddy movies to these films about very serious non-sexual bonds between men (e.g., Lord of the Rings and the 8-bazillion essays it's spawned on romantic friendship/the new homosociality).

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[meirion.livejournal.com]

grand passion.

and what's wrong with "romantic friendship" for g/g stuff? certainly in england, it's acceptable for that.

-m-

I wanna move to Kansas

[sethg]

[from the article:] Social scientists suspect such emotions are part of women's nature, feelings that evolution may have favored because they helped women bond with one another and work cooperatively.

AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!

Re: I wanna move to Kansas

[heron61.livejournal.com]

No kidding, a friend of mine described the ever-dubious discipline of evolutionary psychology as "'just so stories' about human behavior".

Re: I wanna move to Kansas

[sethg]

I have commented further on my blog.

[ladypeculiar.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry . . . but this is NEWS?!?!?!?!?!?!

"I like her, but I don't LIKE liker her is NEWS?!?!?!?!!

New York Times needs to stop sucking in a pretty major way. Where's my leftist newspaper that caters to the snobby intelligencia? Where?!

And where are my kazoos?!

[heron61.livejournal.com]

The term "girl crush" seems perfectly reasonable if the person having it is under 18. However, it's a bit ridiculous to use such a term for adults. As for you comment about men, you are quite correct - however, discussion of so-called "male bonding" is naturally touchier because of fears of alleging homosexuality.

To paraphrase, our culture is a total mess when it comes to discussing anything relating to gender , but we already knew that (sigh).

[heron61.livejournal.com]

I wonder how many such relationships (as well as how many close "male-bonding" relationships would be at least occasionally sexual and more explicitly romantic in a less heterosexist society.

On a completely unrelated note, reading that article and thinking about similar close relationships that I've seen, I realized that I feel & act this way (with both women and men) - odd, but ultimately not all that surprising.

[magnetgirl.livejournal.com]

Some of those girls wanted to fuck each other-I don't care what they say. If you're SWEATING in the presence of someone else? COME ON.