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[rm]

Roomie and I are watching The OC because someone she knows is on it. Not only is it really bad, it is incomprehensible in the same way that LA incomprehneible. There are a lot of good looking vacant boys in matching outfits (other than the one in the scuba suit) getting into fist fights and posing while superfluous women pretend it's about them.

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Both, in my experience. Although I should note my time in LA was fairly brief and extremely weird and involved staying in Beverly Hills and working on a commercial shoot.