[personal profile] rm
In my search for a Regency tailcoat for this year's ball, I've come upon this:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/acatalog/Clothing.html

I'm looking at the RB5033 or the RB584A and have emailed them about sizing pour moi. Ah, the hemming and hawing, and color issues as well. But other recent coat issues aside, this is one that has to be dealt with on a timeline, so hopefully this will sort out as an option.

Date: 2006-04-22 08:02 pm (UTC)
melebeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] melebeth
You are a very bad person. I just drooled all over my keyboard. Personally I prefer the 5033, I think the collar on the 584 is overwhelming and distracts from the rest of the form. But they're both gorgeous.

Date: 2006-04-22 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I think I prefer the 5033 as well, but I suspect the 584 is actually more appropriate to the occassion (how much I care, is somewhat up in the air at present). On the other hand, I suspect the 584 will make it easier to hide the fact that I am a girl, than the 5033. So I just don't know. I also don't know if they'll custom size so significantly and for what price, so it's somewhat theoretical for now.

Date: 2006-04-22 11:25 pm (UTC)
melebeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] melebeth
I actually agree with you on the figure disguising aspect. 5033 would actually probably emphasize female curvature, whereas the lapels and boxier less fitted shape on the other are more gender neutralizing.

Date: 2006-04-22 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yup. Like, i'd throw myself at a man in 5033, in a heartbeat, but on a woman, I think it woudl say "here, look at my tits!" no matter how small my tits are, waaaay not the idea.

Date: 2006-04-22 11:35 pm (UTC)
melebeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] melebeth
*nod* I'd actually quite happily throw myself at a woman wearing one of those, for exactly that reason - a nice mixture of androgynous and feminine - but it WOULD be the mixture. It's not just the tits thing, the shape is such that it would also emphasize the waist.

Date: 2006-04-22 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
As would I, no doubt.. I would probably buy that coat for myself at some point, but I suspect not for a Regency event that I was attending as a man. It works with my day to say concept, in which I am generally distinctly female, but do it up with aniquated male trappings. I rarely wish to have a male body, but the ability to wear that particular coat as it was intended really does give me a solid shot of the ol' envy.

Date: 2006-04-23 12:16 am (UTC)
melebeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] melebeth
*nod* I initially misinterpreted your plans as intending attend the event in a male role rather than as a male.

On a separate note, I have to get over my aversion to buying costuming pieces. I always feel that if I haven't made them that I'm cheating. Of course that's the feeling that had me making an 1860s gown in <12 hours and ending up too exhausted to wear it to an event.

Date: 2006-04-22 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-by-you.livejournal.com
I love your icon! You look great blonde.

Date: 2006-04-22 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Thank you! That's a wig, but it does tempt me to get a better one so I can be a blonde more often.

Date: 2006-04-22 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-by-you.livejournal.com
And now that I'm done staring at your icon, I LOVE the velvet tailcoat (RB5033).

Date: 2006-04-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feyandstrange.livejournal.com
ooh, drool. Damn the wheelchair for eliminating long- and tail-coats from my wardrobe! Maybe a laced jacket someday, though... mmmm.

They're both lovely coats, although the 584 in blue would be the most useful I think - it's the wear-with-everything Regency jacket, whereas the black tailcoat is for ultra-formal or old-fashioned formals only. Much like a tux jacket versus a navy blazer, today - but the tux is correspondingly sexier.

On the 584's wide collar and lapels - well, there's a reason the Seventies loved Napoleonic naval accents. But ideally that jacket is worn with a great big white neck-cloth, which draws attention away from the OMG lapels and back to a vertical line.

Date: 2006-04-22 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yeah, and a bit part of my regency obsession is that the whole neck cloth thing makes me swoon. I'm also ridiculously long necked, so I won't actually look like I'm drowning in something like that. The feeling that I can't really turn my head is another problem entirely.

Women who love Beau Brummell too much

Date: 2006-04-22 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feyandstrange.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Yeah, the neckcloth thing is crazy sexy, and I don't know why.

I've got a ridiculously long neck, but a tendency to slump it, so the Regency neckcloth would either be great or terrible on me. (Ah, the scars of our teenage years.)

And now you've got me wondering if a tailcoat-without-tails in wheelchair would be such a bad thing. Hmm. Stuff that draws attention up to the face is very useful in the chair... hmm.

Not that I can dance in a wheelchair either, but I could be the interestingly wounded soldier from the Napoleonic campaigns...

Date: 2006-04-22 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
I love the 584, but I don't know how it feels on. I think the lines of the sleeves and the collar are delicious.

Date: 2006-04-23 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
*WIBBLE*

[livejournal.com profile] logan_w wants a Rifleman's jacket very badly, and I think you've just gotten me out of having to sew it myself. Thanks for the link!

(and, ohmigod, want soooo much of that for me and the hubby...)

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