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- After a big anxiety thing about money this morning, related to the very complicated way pay is calculated for one of my jobs, everything appears to be just fine. This is good, as this is the employment that allows the big frivolous things in our lives, including my custom clothes and our upcoming cruise.

- Patty's given me the go ahead on my little household art project.

- So hey, we just talked on the phone for a bit, which was really nice. I figure we'll talk on the phone only one or two more times while she's in Oman, and then she'll be home. It's warm here today, and I'm ready to be alive and in the world again, and while I'm perfectly capable of doing that on my own, it's hard to feel inspired, when I get the better, with her version soon.

- There's a fencing tournament coming up I'm not eligible to compete in, but I've just volunteered to judge at. This will be good for my return to fencing shortly there after. My body is less happy when it is less strong, and this an amazing discovery, really, when so much of my life, I thought merely to be delicate.

- Still _swamped_ with stuff, but feeling infinitely more capable about it all then I was 24 hours ago. That said, I'm seriously behind on responding to emails and PMs, but hope to be caught up in the next 24 hours. Yes, this is a message to many of you.

- Still waiting to hear about things of marginal bigness.

- Editing! I love being in edits. As much as I bitch about it, and I'm really happen with the new bit of fanfiction y'all that care will be seeing soon.

- Am vaguely amused by fandom folk mistaking John Barrowman's partner for Nathan Fillion; am charmed by the pictures of them kissing at the Priscilla premiere. Am notably less charmed by the fetishization of them or gay folk in general -- believe it or not, it is possible to find something arousing and yet also not reduce it to nothing more than how it amuses you. I'm asking too much of the Internets again, aren't I?

Date: 2009-03-27 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ophymirage.livejournal.com
Am notably less charmed by the fetishization of them or gay folk in general

It's funny, that while I have railed against the use of lesbian activities as some kind of preliminary or 'warmup' in 'straight' porn (for $value of 'straight'), i hadn't really given much thought to the idea that we as fanfic writers are reappropriating from the other side of the equation.

I will have to sit down and think about that, particularly in relation to my own queerness - I'm not sure if that makes the sin less, because I'm interrogating from a perspective that's closer, or greater, because I really ought to know better.

And I'm supposed to be thinking about purchase orders this am. Don't post such interesting things. :)

Date: 2009-03-27 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushis.livejournal.com
re: the sin of objectification

Just an unsolicited opinion from someone you've never met: in my opinion, there is no sin in the context of fantasy and/or porn. I know that's not a universally-accepted proposition, but I strongly believe people need leeway to let their minds go where they will on occasion.

Date: 2009-03-27 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I agree that there is no sin in the context of the fantasy.

But one of the ongoing issues in fandoms I've been in is people who, say, write slash, but then complain about "faggots" or actually oppose gay marriage. I'm sorry, if you're getting off to queers, you don't have to go be gay rights activists, but you shouldn't be actively trying to make life worse for gay people either. That's the peeve.

Date: 2009-03-27 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushis.livejournal.com
I have heard of this before, guess I still have trouble believing it! But I have no reason not to believe you or other people who have described it. I really have trouble wrapping my brain around the possibility of women finding the idea of men having sex to be sexy, but also being openly homophobic. Maybe partly because, in my case, I rather quickly went from an immature "OMG HAWT! Why in the world would you be offended at my drooling at you?" to "Oh, right, gay people have a right not to be treated like zoo animals. And, the law shouldn't be denying them other rights, either."

Maybe what's really foreign to me is the idea of sexual attraction not eventually finding its way to empathy? But, yeah, that is rather naive of me...

Date: 2009-03-27 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ophymirage.livejournal.com
Maybe what's really foreign to me is the idea of sexual attraction not eventually finding its way to empathy?

Please turn your attention to Exhibit A, the Republican halves of the Senate and House..

[/snark]

(Okay, maybe not the WHOLE half of each, but jesus, how many of them have had sex/perversion scandals the last couple of years?)
Edited Date: 2009-03-27 08:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-27 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] better-late24.livejournal.com
Huh. That is so strange. It never really occurred to me that people could be into slash and then not actually be OK with real people being gay. It's counterintuitive.

Also? Scott does look like Nathan Fillion a bit in those pics. I think it's the brown he's wearing.

I've always been amused that there are TWO captains in suspenders (or braces, if you like) I swoon over.

Date: 2009-03-27 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ophymirage.livejournal.com
right, don't profit (even if it's just personal enjoyment) by objectification, then turn around and fault the object for it.

Date: 2009-03-27 10:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] qthelights.livejournal.com
Really?? people who, say, write slash, but then complain about "faggots" or actually oppose gay marriage.

I haven't come across that in my fandoms so far... thank god... why on earth would people write slash if they feel that way??! I just don't even understand that..

Date: 2009-03-27 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smirnoffmule.livejournal.com
I universally accept it. I feel very strongly no one should ever have to feel ashamed, or pretend that they're not aroused by something (appropriate company not withstanding, obviously) provided they don't ever wield it to do harm. For one thing, disapproving of it won't make it go away - straight guys won't stop finding two girls together hot just because I don't like it, or even if society took such a swing that it became unacceptable to admit it. It's far healthier to be able to realise your kinks, whatever they are, via fantasy than it is to pretend they don't exist.

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