Date: 2009-04-24 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferriludant.livejournal.com
Okay, completely granted: "be a man", and "man up" are *obviously* gender-normative phrases, and toxic in many ways.

But I didn't catch those phrases in the video. Perhaps I missed it. What I did see was Olbermann calling Hannity on a particularly egregious instance of crass, brutish, pseudo-populism, relating to a hugely important issue.

Incidentally, I wouldn't have been allowed to carry a sword in that period either, because my birth doesn't place me in the right class. There were *lots* of things which sucked back then.

But the swords were cool. :)

Date: 2009-04-24 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Nope, hasn't happened on this topic yet. Has happened between Olbermann and Hannity (and other MSNBC people) on other topics. I really, really don't want to see it here.

And yup on the swords. I wrote you this long comment and then was like "oh god, this is either boring or he already knows this" and deleted half of it.

Date: 2009-04-25 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferriludant.livejournal.com
Heh. I deleted nearly twice what I ended up posting, too. For different reasons, I expect, but a thoughtful exchange is worthwhile, neh?

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