Torchwood fan wibbling

[rm]

Just listened to the Torchwood audiobook In the Shadows and man, was that ridiculous and satisfying.

But then! Someone had to go and link me to this: http://tinyurl.com/l8u2nu which arguably contains implied spoilers for Children of Earth that are really fucking distressing even if I've been saying for months that Ianto is not going to die and the rumour mongering is just the usual fan wank and drama.

Really, it's so ridiculous. Hello, I went through the Snape thing. I was ready for that. I'm only bummed his death wasn't more epic (snake bubble to the head? really?). But Ianto! Not my favorite character, but the one it would definitely break my heart to see go. I'd analyze that for you all, but it's so hardly necessary I'd like to pretend to keep my dignity on the subject, but NOW I'M REALLY FUCKING FREAKED. And can't, apparently, stop listening to really depressing stuff on last.fm.

Trauma!

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[bodlon.livejournal.com]

My desk is large enough for two to hide beneath.

No killing Ianto. It is against the rules.

(Edit for icon appropriateness.)

[rm.livejournal.com]

I can't believe how freaked out I am. Because seriously, that track list look grim, unless there's a whole plot ruse that involves his supposed death (or, if, as has been speculated, the glove comes into play again).

[rednwhiterose.livejournal.com]

OK,if you're freaked then I'm my panic level is now at a safe level orange. Seriously, if *you* start freaking then I may have to go into full blown freak mode cuz you never freak unless there's a good reason to freak. Which means I should start freaking....

*pulls out brown paper bag and starts breathing in and out*

[rm.livejournal.com]

I've talked myself down maybe ten percent since I posted this, and despite writing 200,000 words of Ianto being ready to accept his own death, I AM NOT READY TO ACCEPT IANTO'S DEATH.

Fuck.

[luckyn02.livejournal.com]

*grim look*

I knewit. as soon I heard that Euros Lynn et al talked about Jack and Ianto as a 'Love Story' I knewit. O.O

I'm gonna join you with Trauma!. Or become BFF with Egypt. Or, you know, just move there with kidnappedIanto and he can take that pretty lil' stopwatch of his and break the back open and make Jack *and* the Doctor not-so-alone anymore. er. If in different ways.

I'm jus' sayin'.

T_T

*packs bags incase*

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssssss!

[used_songs]

I saw that too and am still in the process of freaking out. I am not happy.

[godofstrife.livejournal.com]

I cannot deal with shit like that. I'M NOT READY! Every two minutes I look at TWU and convince myself "yes, your arguments are valid, they won't kill him". Then I listen to the "Ballad" and want to crawl into a hole. Dignity has long gone to shit.

[ophymirage.livejournal.com]

*sticks fingers in ears and goes "la la la la, I can't hear you."*

with that bit of maturity out the way: Not only was Snape's death gratuitous (if telegraphed), it MADE NO SENSE. He's a frigging POTIONS MASTER who's been working around a giant frigging snake for MONTHS. And who has, in fact, previously constructed the SPECIFIC antivenin for THIS snake, because he bloody well fed it to Arthur Weasley two books ago. He REALLY doesn't have a holdout vial? Come ON.

ARGH!! Apologies, but I just HATE laziness that creates plot holes of that size.

[luckyn02.livejournal.com]

WORD!!!!!!!!!!

-I'm still in Egypt when concerning Snape, if only because JK made a utter rats arse out of Snape's death, I'm IN NO WAY READY for Ianto die. no way. *wails*

And I've only recently becomed obsessed with TW. wtf?!! It's TOO SOON.

*Freaks*

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

I was very convinced he was a goner a few months back, and I managed to bring myself back into the "nothing is certain!" camp.

These tracks? These tracks scare me.

Not that this couldn't turn out to be a Doomsday type thing, where Rose's "death" wasn't quite what it was thought to be during the lead-up, but even so. Do not want.

[qthelights.livejournal.com]

I am strangely calm about this.. but I think it's only because I have talked myself into accepting that this will be the last season of TW. Therefore any death won't matter, because it will not carry on without Ianto or Jack.

Of course, if it gets picked up for another season AND Ianto is dead.. well, that just isn't acceptable.

[xtricks.livejournal.com]

It's fucking stressing me out and I can't grasp why 'surprise' is the best way to kill off a major character. Arg.

I hate this.

*never going to get caught up in an active canon again.

[rm.livejournal.com]

*never going to get caught up in an active canon again.


Word. I mean, I did it with Harry Potter. But somehow, as a book it was a different less crazy-making experience for me. This shit is hell.

[darthhellokitty.livejournal.com]

FUCK!!!

[rm.livejournal.com]

We are having a good thread over on TWU about why it might not be as bad as we think, if that helps.

[laufeyette.livejournal.com]

I have a really strong feeling that Ianto is going to come out of the series alive, even if he dies (if Supernatural fandom has taught me anything, it's that main characters can die right in front of you and still come out of it looking sexy) or is believed dead at some point. This is apropos of nothing, of course, just a gut thing. And because I haven't freaked out about it yet.

Now if it's true I'm going to feel like an asshole. :)

track 11 = spoilerific?

[rm.livejournal.com]

I hope you're right. I've been convinced of that (despite many rumours to the contrary) until this showed up and ruffled me quite a bit.

[rihani.livejournal.com]

Oh no they fucking don't!! NO NO NO NONONONONONONO!

*buries head in the sand, fingers in her ears* I refuse to...

Oh, fuck, they would, they will, they're bastards. Damnit. Fuck.

[misswinterhill.livejournal.com]

Oh no. Oh no, do not want. Thanks for the info but oh no. Oh no.

[dr-is-in.livejournal.com]

**sympathizes with everyone freaking out at the moment**

Just over a year ago, I was going thru this over the spoilers of Owen's demise.

It SUCKS.

[rm.livejournal.com]

It really does. This is also, somewhat novel for me, as I've not been a big media fandom person and usually the character who dies is the one I identify with, not the one I jokingly refer to my girlfriend as.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I effing knew it!

And you, you convinved me otherwise! For two days I was on cloud nine with a the knowledge of fan-expert in my mind.

This OST... don't want it... really, what the hell?! If he dies there's no way the show can go on, this isn't Doctor Who!

I actually got into a major argument with a friend about how the show would suck without Ianto and my friend said that they're just shaking things up like in Doctor Who and that I'm only upset because I like Ianto best and don't want him to die.

Not sure how the two are mutually exclusive, but meh. The whole structure of Torchwood is different. They already killed off half the team... I'm... *wibble*

[rm.livejournal.com]

There's a good discussion on TWU right now about how all might not be lost and Ianto might not be doomed... and then we digress into the subject of vibrators. It may be cheering.

[cruentum.livejournal.com]

I'm actually fairly calm about it. I think I've talked my way into an "I'm okay with it if he dies". Still don't quite think they will pull that trick because death is such a cheap way to do things. I read teh tracklist and read the TWU discussion and think it is probably a 'we will think he is dead' but I remember seeing Tosh getting shot without having been spoiled about it, and just sitting there and watching it, and going, 'wow, she just got shot, just like that, fuck'. So I'd be actually surprised if he died just because there is so much speculation about it. I like to think that Torchwood makes its deaths surprising with a sort of cold hand, a wrong step and not a dramatic setup (clearly my sense of dramatics is impaired if I don't count Owen's final deat has dramatic). But Tosh simply got shot, and Owen simply got shot (initially). There was no big music, there was no big 'OMG what is going to happen' it just happened.

But then - Ianto could certainly kick it, but hey, I *am* fairly calm about this, I think.

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

Eh, I still don't think it's likely, and this doesn't change my mind. Either this makes me exceptionally sanguine or exceptionally dumb, but hey. Anyone freaking out can come and stand near me and be soothed, in the way that it is soothing to be around large dumb calm animals.

[better-late24.livejournal.com]

*stands near you*

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

The fact that there's a track at the end called "Next Time On Torchwood" makes me REALLY REALLY HAPPY, though.

MOAR! S4! Because a five-part miniseries thing is not an acceptable ending and I want more. More more more.

As for the other tracks, they could indicate people THINKING someone has died, or a number of things. It could be Ianto's dad. The ballad theme could be Ianto mourning. It could be him thinking Jack has really bought the farm this time with some horrible death we know about from the first trailer and mourning that. Which could explain the emo-looking promo pics.

[rm.livejournal.com]

"Next Time on Torchwood" is just what they play at the end of each episode.

[better-late24.livejournal.com]

Um, some of those track names are downright terrifying. I refuse to accept the possibility of Ianto dying. Maybe they THINK he died. I buy that. "He Was a Good Man," though??? And "Ballad of Ianto Jones" following "Requiem of the Fallen?" Oh fuck, I'm scared. No no no. Nope. Can't kill him. I can't even handle Ianto dying in FIC.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I can't be really confident about this without hearing the full tracks, but it's notable that "He Was a Good Man" doesn't have any of the thematic markers the two Ianto tracks have, but does seem have thematic markers that mesh with the Gwen tracks.

[takenatwork.livejournal.com]

If the BBC are being a bit casual about these things, then I wonder about the British Censor rumour that didn't have Gareth listed in episode 5. As a Ianto fan, I don't want him to die. As a Gareth fan, I want a full 5 hours worth. But of course I don't want either rumour to be true.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I thought that rumour was actually about episode three or something and was debunked as being meaningful because all sorts of important people got omitted from such listings during the first two seasons and the British Censor board thing is notorious for being lame like that.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

I do think it is extraordinary to release a soundtrack with these titles on. Unless they aren't as clear cut as all that. I freaked when I read them, and all along I haven't trusted RTD as he is very open about not caring about fans, and never listening to them, and that he loves to kill off characters. However I think he has been pushed into decisions before for more commercial reasons (makes me laugh so much when he does the behind the scenes and pretends it's all creative, I loved Burn Gorman so much for actually stating the obvious about Martha being shoehorned in, when RTD sat there and went on about how it was always meant to be etc)

Anyhow deviating, but I think my point is that if it doesn't make commercial sense, (surely it doesn't, god knows I have a lot of gay friends who watch for the Jack/Ianto, and are not fannish, casual viewers but won't bother with the Jack/Gwen show at all, they don't watch Dr Who), then I wonder if it's more likely to be an RTD style Deus ex Machina? Please not the glove though.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Well, I like Ianto, but couldn't there be another male love interest for Jack after Ianto?

I mean, even if Jack and Gwen are the last two standing, there's no guarantee they'd ever be a couple on the program.

Maybe Gwen will get a girlfriend. :)

[rednwhiterose.livejournal.com]

OK, I've decided I'm not going to freak out about the song titles (i.e. The Ballad of Ianto Jones). I site Leonard Nimoy's song The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins as my reason to *not* freak out.

Very funny song...trippy video. Highly recommend it if you need a good laugh, which I think we all do.

[rm.livejournal.com]

I'm just listening to lots of stuff by The Pogues all of which can be split into one of two categories -- "weepy" or "fuck you" which is about where I am with this thing.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

I pre-mourn with you. 8(

[shipchan.livejournal.com]

I think the soundtrack could mean anyone died. Even this Clem guy. May not be Ianto.